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Old 02-02-2010, 23:24   #1
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Am zis asa, am 3 variante.
http://www.pcgarage.ro/vizualizare-wishlist/203342/
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http://www.pcgarage.ro/vizualizare-wishlist/203346/
Care vi se pare cea mai buna?
Folosire: Gaming si-atat
Deci:
-Aduce DDR3-ul vreun spor vizibil in gaming?Isi merita diferenta de 100lei fata de un kit DDR2 4Gb? (asta in cazul AMD, caci la Intel sunt obligat sa iau DDR3)
-Cum as iesi mai bine? Cu un dual-core(X2 550) si 4gb sau cu un quad (X4 925) alaturi de doar 2gb?Diferentele sunt mari?Merita diferenta de pret de ~70 lei intre cele 2 variante?
-Se observa un spor in gaming intre 2Gb si 4Gb RAM?
-Este in stare un dual-core cu hyper-threading (i3-ul) sa se impuna in fata unui Quad (X4 925)? Care ar fi alegerea mai buna pe termen lung?
Personal, stiu cat de cat cu ce se mananca dar am zis ca nu ar fi rau sa cer si o parere, caci aici sunt unii mai priceputi decat mine.
Ar mai fi si X4 620, dar mi se pare un procesor destul de slabut pentru ce vreau eu sa fac cu el. Daca ma interesau aplicatiile care folosesc 4 nuclee, poate era altfel.
Restul configuratiei probabil va fi compus dintr-un 500gb F3, un HD5770, o sursa buna de ~400W si o carcasa ieftioara.
Cel mai mult ma atrage varianta X2 550-ului, are cel mai mic pret, vine echipata cu 4gb Ram , iar in gaming din ce am vazut in testele celor de la Anandtech e foarte aproape de i3.Aaa, si inca ceva, ma gandesc ca poate am bafta sa-l deblochez.Totusi, nu ma bazez pe asta.
Acuma, voi ce ziceti?Ce ar trebui sa aleg?
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Old 02-02-2010, 23:32   #2
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Varianta 2 eu votez.
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Old 02-02-2010, 23:32   #3
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Cand vorbim de casual overclocking X2 550 nu e deloc aproape de i3 . Daca vrei un AMD competitiv iti pot spune ca sansele de deblocare in cazul Phenom II 555 BE sunt MULT mai mari decat in cazul Phenom II 550 BE, iar overclocking-ul este net superior (revizie C3 vs revizie C2).

As alege un i3 530 + cel mai ieftin kit 2x2GB 1333MHz CL9 + o placa de baza decenta pe la 300RON si gata ! Il tii pe la 4.2GHz si nu ai treaba...
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Old 02-02-2010, 23:39   #4
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Stiu ca voi sunteti pasionati de OC, dar daca scoatem acest aspect din schema, cum stau lucrurile?
Din pacate, varianta oferita de tine matose, depaseste bugetul meu , care a ajuns la maximum prin "Varianta 1" .
As vrea si niste lamuriri cu privire la memoria RAM, daca se poate (DDR2 vs. DDR3 , 2gb vs 4gb si ce-am mai zis eu p-acolo).
Multumiri!

@Vladutz, ai putea sa motivezi alegerea facuta?
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Ai zis ca vrei strict ptr gaming. Iar daca esti norocos te poti alege cu un quad de la amd. Daca vrei sa faci si oc si benching Matose are solutia cea mai buna pt tine.
Dar daca vrei sa te joci eu as alege un amd deoarece este un procesor cinstit la banii lui
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Old 03-02-2010, 00:03   #6
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Ok, atunci asta mi se pare configuratia ideala. Placa de baza este foarte buna, memoria DDR2 (DDR3 nu aduce mare spor in gaming, mai ales la AMD) iar procesorul este aproape sigur deblocabil !
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Da si eu as alege a doua varianta pt ca daca il folosesti doar pt gaming vei avea nevoie de 4 G de ram, 2 G sunt chiar la limita.
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Da si eu as alege a doua varianta pt ca daca il folosesti doar pt gaming vei avea nevoie de 4 G de ram, 2 G sunt chiar la limita.
Varianta lui matose e cea mai ok, o placuta de inca 2GB de RAM poate sa cumpere si mai tarziu.
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P55 CD53 a revenit la pretul avut inainte din pacate, asadar cade varianta i3-ului.. Prima placa de baza ok mi se pare aceasta, care oricum e mai scumpa cu 50lei fata de cat era MSI-ul la oferta.
Deci ramai primele 2 Variante. Alte pareri?
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Ai scapat un lucru esential: monitorul pe care-l ai. Deci rezolutia la care vei juca. Si pretentiile tale in ceea ce priveste calitatea imaginii si nivelul de detalii.
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Asta nu prea are legatura cu CPU+MB+RAM
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mai bine pui 2gb ram un mobo mai serios si 550
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Cam are legatura cu gamingul si cu placa video. Un procesor mai bun va scoate mai mult unt din placa video.

Cu GTX275, Phenom II X2 555 BE bate un Athlon II X4 635 in unele din jocurile in care l-am testat, atat la stock cat si la un OC minor (3.6GHz pe amandoua). Iar in jocurile multicore-aware, Athlon II X4 635 castiga. Si astea sunt 2 procesoare cu pret foarte apropiat.
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Rezolutia este 1680x1050, iar placa video cel mai probabil HD5770.
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i3 nu se merita in nici un caz la ora actuala e prea overpriced pentru ce ofera. Un procesor ieftin care isi merita toti banii este Celeron E3300, cu usurinta poti prinde 4-4.5ghz cu el si se apropie astfel de nivelul unui wolfdale la 4g.
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Eu raman la parerea mea cu 555 BE datorita OC si potentialului de deblocare !
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Si eu tot pe 555 as merge dar nu la pretul de acum. Asta e procesor de sub 400 ron. Tot in bugetul asta intra si un Athlon 630.
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Eu raman la parerea mea cu 555 BE datorita OC si potentialului de deblocare !
nu are aceeasi sansa de deblocare ca 550 ? e peste 100 ron diferenta dintre ele, pentru 100mhz...
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Pana la urma ce ti-ai luat? Eu ziceam sa mergi pe i3...
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