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29-06-2017, 22:18
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Nu stiu ce sa zic de tabelul ala. 1070 net superior unui 1080....
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29-06-2017, 22:51
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În mining chiar este, de departe.
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30-06-2017, 01:06
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#9383
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Pentru cine nu are somn [Live Stream PcPerspective Vega FE Benchmark]:
[YT]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhGAS_oGN3c[/YT]
~5500 puncte in Unigine Superposition cu setari 4K Optimized.
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30-06-2017, 08:26
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In the 3DMark Fire Strike, GPU scores of 22,963 (standard preset), 10,585 (extreme) and 5.336 (ultra) were achieved. On the side of Nvidia, this creates an overclocked GeForce GTX 1080. It is striking that the results are 35 to 40 percent above that of a Radeon R9 Fury X, whereby the Vega Frontier Edition quite accurately converts its additional GPU clock to points (about 1,400 vs 1.050 MHz). This is a clear indication that the architectural improvement of Vega 10 is either not yet working properly or has not yet been released by the driver. Above all, the new Draw Stream Binning Rasterizer should boost performance by discarding non-visible polygons early in the render pipeline - without manual adjustments in games or benchmarks.
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Vega-C...marks-1231847/
Ceva nu se aduna iarasi... S-a calculat ca VEGA FE e cu ~32% mai performanta decat Fury X desi functioneaza la o frecventa cu 50% mai mare decat aceasta... WTF AMD?
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30-06-2017, 09:39
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Ideea e ca nu sta tot timpul la boost maxim.. Si mai e ceva, eu cred ca "optimizarile" facute pt a atinge o frecventa superioara o trag in jos la IPC. E clar ca va fi la nivel cu 1080 oc, poate usor peste in dx12/vulkan dar nici vorba de ti sau Titan.
Daca ma intrebi pe mine, o faceam cu GDDR5 sa o pot vinde la un pret cat mai mic.
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30-06-2017, 15:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rage fuury
Ceva nu se aduna iarasi... S-a calculat ca VEGA FE e cu ~32% mai performanta decat Fury X desi functioneaza la o frecventa cu 50% mai mare decat aceasta... WTF AMD?
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Dupa toate testele din ultimele zile eu cred ca peisajul ar trebui sa fie destul de clar: AMD au dorit sa creeze o arhitectura puternica in computing si s-au trezit ca nu are performanta dorita nici in computing, nici in gaming iar consumul a luat-o pe aratura. So...A Fermi 2.0?
In ce priveste duelul cu modelele P5000 si P6000 de la Nvidia, Vega sta foarte bine la capitolul pret/performanta [asta daca aplicatiile pe care le foloseste cineva nu sunt dependente de CUDA]. Insa avand in vedere ca au unitati de dual precision, nu e de bun augur faptul ca performanta nu este semnificativ mai ridicata.
It does the job of undercutting the Nvidia competition but this should have been so much better.
Daca o scot la un pret mai mare de 500$/EUR e cam dead on arrival. Ma astept la o ieftinire de minim 100$/EUR dupa 2 luni de vanzari dezastruoase in acest caz [cough Nano cough]
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30-06-2017, 21:51
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The Radeon Vega Frontier Edition 16GB Air Cooled Review
https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-...nd-PCB-Exposed
Nu stiu ce sa zic. Ca placa video profesionala e valabila (raport pret/performanta f. bun) insa din perspectiva gaming-ului lucrurile nu arata de loc bine pentru Vega in momentul asta. Chiar si la 1450 MHz si tot ar trebui sa produca mai multe fps-uri...Ori ceva important nu functioneaza inca in driver * (...care e si destul de vechi din ce am inteles -Ianuarie 2017), ori o sa asistam din nou la un Big Fail marca AMD.
PREPARE FOR THE WORST, HOPE FOR THE BEST
* Reddetit comment: "The reason its not doing tiled rasterization is it has not been "turned on" yet. Vega is using the fallback rendering method instead of tiled.
When it was first discovered that Maxwell used tiled based rendering there was talk about a lot of software that needed to be written or rewritten in order to utilize it correctly and Nvidia implemented that in their drivers.
Vega is using a predominantly Fiji driver and this feature has not been "turned on" actually all but one of the new features in Vega is not functional right now the exception being the pixel engine being connected to the L2 cache as that is hardwired. I tore apart the new drivers in IDA today and the code paths between Fiji and Vega are very close and only differ slightly.
This arch is a massive change from anything they have released with GCN. They built in fallbacks in the hardware because of the massive changes. Its a protection against poorly written games and helps AMD have a starting point for driver development. Hell even architecturally Vega is essentially Fiji at its most basic thats why it is performing exactly like it because none of its new features are enabled or have a driver published for them yet. It is performing like a Fury X at 1400 MHz because that is exactly how every computer is treating it."
PS: Bine ca macar au lovit-o bine cu Zen-ul, altfel...
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30-06-2017, 23:00
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lucrurile nu arata de loc bine
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Noroc ca a trecut bacu...
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30-06-2017, 23:02
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Aiurea.... Si totusi stiau ca nu merge cum trebuie placa probabil din decembrie, n-au mai putut schimba nimic la placa....la arhitectura ma refer.
La asa performanta nu prea merita nici cei 8GB HBM2 sincer ar putea fi lejer numai 4GB si placa la pret de 1070 cu performanta de 1080oc.
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30-06-2017, 23:09
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The Radeon Vega Frontier Edition 16GB Air Cooled Review - Pcper
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01-07-2017, 00:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Artanis
Noroc ca a trecut bacu...
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Artanis, are you high sau asa esti de obicei?
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01-07-2017, 08:19
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Nu, de loc
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01-07-2017, 09:01
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02-07-2017, 09:10
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Mda, si-o fura de la 1080 F.E. inclusiv in vulkan/dx 12..
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02-07-2017, 12:22
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Text Version: Vega FE Gamers Nexus Review
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Our peak power consumption is 442W during the stock test
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"550W PSU wasn't enough" - myth busted
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02-07-2017, 17:47
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Nu era mai bine pentru ei daca aparea la 2-3 luni dupa 1080? Asa chiar ca s-au facut de cacao. Au polishat rahatul, dar din pacate pentru ei au folosit polish tot din rahat.
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02-07-2017, 18:52
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Momentan e un pic mai slab ca 1080 even...
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Dacă vrea să se sinucidă, e de ajuns să urce la nivelul ego-ului său și să se arunce la nivelul IQ-ului său...job well done!
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03-07-2017, 05:28
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Viata nu se masoara în numarul de respiratii pe care le-ai avut, ci in momentele care iti taie rasuflarea.
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03-07-2017, 17:06
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Radeon Vega: FE Vcore Behemoth - VRM & PCB Analysis
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04-07-2017, 21:04
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Vega vs Fiji clock/ clock comparison:
Scratch that Fermi reference I made in the last post, we seem to have the Bulldozer of videocards
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