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Old 18-01-2017, 18:13   #121
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Nice, nu merge 5200 cu AVX 2 setat in BIOS de ex.?
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Old 18-01-2017, 18:49   #122
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ba da,dar atunci am 5000 in aplicatii cu avx
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Old 18-01-2017, 18:56   #123
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Nu mi-e clar daca doar acele instr.ruleaza cu frecv.mai mica in timp ce restul sunt full speed, sau efectiv se reduce frecventa pe cores.
Btw, screen e din Prime 26.6 - Blend?
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Old 18-01-2017, 21:39   #124
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Old 19-01-2017, 10:24   #125
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Alt cpu,best of three ,grobian Cinebench merge 5 ghz 1.19 LLC level6,5300 1.38 .Ambient 20 de grade,racire pe apa,delid.

5200/4500 ramu la 4000 XMP,llc level 6,delid:



Prime ultimele versiuni respectiv cele cu AVX sau FMA3 merge 5050-5100.
WOW 5.2 Ghz la 1.344V, ala e golden sample direct!!!
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Old 21-01-2017, 12:40   #126
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Default Kaby Lake 7700K / batch # L643G558

Un alt exemplar 7700K, tot din batch # L643G558 (Malaezia)
Incerc sa gasesc un exemplar sa fie rock solid la 5.0 GHz, cu cache la cel putin 4.5 Ghz.
Pare sa fie stabil in Prime 95 26.6, Real Bench, OCCT.
5.0 Ghz, 4.5 GHz cache, 1.3 V core, LLC5.

Delid cu Gelid GC Extreme, pasta este folosita de asemenea si între pompa si procesor.
H105 racit cu doua Noctua F12, pull (ventilatoarele sunt intre radiator si plafonul carcasei), ~ 900 rpm. Destul de silent in load.
Temperaturi in load:
~ 75C in real bench, spike de 80C
~ 65C in OCCT 4.4.2, spike de 70-72 C
~ 75C in prime 95 26.6
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Old 21-01-2017, 15:39   #127
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Old 21-01-2017, 16:51   #128
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Tot Cinebench stable. Mai e mult pana departe...
Kvarq, e ok domn'le ce-i acolo.
5.0 daily e f.bine.
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Old 21-01-2017, 20:41   #129
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Cam tot ce sta sub 1.35 si 80C in teste extreme este fantastic, inseamna ca in daily probabil nu depaseste 75 si nu o sa traga aia 1.35 decat in cazuri izolate

Ragalia mea nu vrea sub 1.4 si acolo ducem temperaturile in 90-95 ... ceea ce nu e asa placut, dar fac eu delid, acum am o alta problema, am sesizat ca de cand am facut update de bios placa de baza/sursa nu vrea sa porneasca in anumite cazuri (bine am si 1000 de *****uri conectate pe ea, mi-e ca e ceva in scurt care trigeruieste vreo protectie la sursa, azi o sa ma ocup de cleanup la sistem si sper sa dibuiesc problema.

Visul meu este 5 GHz daily, cu voltaj cat mai mic (eu sper la 1.375) si temperaturi sub 85 ... am pregatit pentru asta delidu, liquid ultra si push/pull-ul de la EKWB cu Vardaruri, keep your fingers crossed (cred ca mai bine luam dracu alt procesor, am investit deja juma de pret in jucarii)
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Old 21-01-2017, 20:53   #130
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la mine au rămas piticii pe faptul ca "crapă" in prime 28.X (28.7, 28.9 de exemplu) / AVX free
26.6, real bench, occt e solid, darrrr...
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Old 21-01-2017, 21:10   #131
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Incearca cu AVX 2 de ex.
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ar rula cu 4.8 GHz atunci
http://forum.lab501.ro/showpost.php?...9&postcount=40

fără AVX vreau sa meargă
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Old 21-01-2017, 21:39   #133
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Da, ideea e sa vezi max. freq. stabil in aplicatii cu instructiuni AVX. Si OCCT e o astfel de aplicatie.
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Old 22-01-2017, 19:32   #134
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Ia uite aici raspuns oficial de la ASUS:

"Dear Virgil,


Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.
My name is Apollonia S. and I understand that you are having issue with the


The motherboard is not compatible with the processor and there is not BIOS version that would allow the processor to work with your system.



We do value your business, thank you for being a part of the ASUS family.

If the problem persists please contact us again for further assistance.



If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact us again for assistance.

Best Regards,
Apollonia S.

ASUS Technical Support
http://www.asus.com/us/support/

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Vorbim evident de ASUS Maximus VIII Extreme Assembly - o placa de baza care costa doar 550 $ (oficial) ... pai sa nu-ti tragi una cu tifla in coae'

Evident ca eu am pus biosul de Extreme 8 simplu si merge .. dar ca idee asa, nu e frumos ce fac baietii.

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Azi am avut timp sa ma joc cu monstruletu ... am gasit de ce nu vroia sa porneasca, se pare ca un pin de la portul USB 3.0 de pe MB era indoit ... si cred ca facea scurt sau ceva, ma rog cu ocazia asta am facut un pic de curat in carcasa, cable management and stuff, am montat fan controlerul de la Asus, am facut delid la 7700K (dupa succesul 6700k cu scaderi de temperatura enorme) ... insa la 7700k nu e atat de rece (doar vreo 10 grade) insa foarte interesant, am reusit 4700 fara sa fac nici un fel de modificare a vcore din bios, practic trage singur (cpu z arata 1.28, insa hwinfo64 arata pana la 1.321 ) temperatura in Prime95 v28.10 nu sare de 75 grade (este de fapt un spike la 70/71)

Even later edit - se pare ca delid si-a facut treaba perfect
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Old 22-01-2017, 21:41   #135
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La suport de la Asus depinde peste cine dai... Nu m-as baza pe ei in totalitate :P sau poate e un îndemn subtil sa treci la Z270.
Eu de când am trecut pe Z270 observ ca e ceva mai smooth un pic cu 7700K.

7700k sunt cam fierbinți in OC.
Ca sa le ții sus (4.9 +) la temperaturi decente e aproape sine qua non delidul.

Oricum in jocuri am temps in jur de 50C cu procesorul la 4.9 GHz, la Skylake fără delid la 4.6 GHz aveam in jur de 60C...

Văd ca folosești prime mai nou
E OK și temps chiar decente pe la 4.8 chiar 4.9...

Pentru 5.0... mai complicat cu versiunile de prime folosite pentru stabilitate

- in prime95 26.6 procesorul chiar tine la 5 ghz cu 1.3V (LLC 5) - aproape decent, fara sa sacrific prea mult silentiozitatea - noctua F12 nu depasesc 1100 rpm
- in prime 28.X "crapa"... (mesaj cu rounding failed etc)

intre cele doua versiuni de prime sunt diferente destul de mari - temperaturi de 10-15C, in versiunile noi de prime stabilitatea e mai greu de atins
in fine, versiunile noi au avx etc.

pentru a obtine stabilitate in 28.7 de exemplu, am incercat tot felul de variante - am marit voltajul un pic, am pus si LLC 6, tot pica...

apoi am incercat un test la 4.9 GHz, am lasat 1.3 V, 4.5 cache, DAR am lasat LLC pe auto...
in cpuz arata in load 1.312 V, deci mai adauga ceva ca sa fie stabil... 40 min and no crashes
Edit:
cand am pus LLC 5, 6 sau chiar 7 la 4.9 GHz, iar am eroare de rounding...
deci vad ca e mai sensitive versiunea mai noua de prime la LLC

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Old 22-01-2017, 21:53   #136
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Bune temperaturi acolo in Prime!
Si eu am renuntat la LLC5, am lasat pe Auto.
Am pus in cele din urma AVX2 ca sa-mi tina orice versiune de Prime95 (ruleaza la 4.6Ghz in instr. AVX).
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llc auto inseamna 5

Pentru placile Asus,modificati PLL Termination Voltage,de la default 1.20,coborati la 1.10 sau 1.00 sau chiar mai jos.Nu are nici un efect asupra overclock-ului(pe aer/apa)doar ca veti obtine scaderi consistente de temperatura.
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Unde mai e si setarea asta?
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dupa ce am testat cam 1 ora prime - fara probleme, am patit ceva dubios - s-a oprit sistemul si iar a refuzat sa porneasca pana nu s-au golit probabil ceva condensatori, mi s-a urcat tensiunea, am decis sa trec pe furia rosie (funny thing gtx-ul 1080 nu mai incape in carcasa dupa ce am pus push/pull) deci trebuie sa suport zgomotul infernal produs de ventilatorul Radeon Pro Duo ... zici ca am hdd in sistem, din pacate este cumva prins de PCB-ul placii si nu pot sa-l schimb (placa venit si cu *****uri de sigilii pe x-clamp)

Ma rog am renuntat la bestie - mi-a scos suficiente fire de par alb.
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dusmanul lui bine e mai bine
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pentru mine there is no way back, mi-am dat Sky-ul

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