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Old 05-10-2021, 22:29   #1
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Default De la i7 7700 la Ryzen G?

Va salut stimati colegi,

Am un i7 7700, 16 GB RAM DDR 4-2132, SSD NVME Samsung 960 EVO 250GB, iGPU-ul integrat e HD Graphics 630... toate inghesuite intr-un DeskMini 110.

In urma cu ceva timp, am dezactivat chestia aia cu speed boost la CPU (daca bine tin minte) pentru ca aveam freeze-uri dese in Windows. Freeze-urile s-au rarit considerabil, fiind nesemnificative de atuci. Probabil VRM-ul e de slaba calitate. iGPU-ul nu s-a inteles foarte bine cu emulatorul de android si accelerarea hardware o vreme, acum parca e mai ok si asta.

Nu ma intereseaza gaming. Ma gandesc ca e mai future proof un 8c/16t si 32GB Ram la soft-urile mai demanding la compilari, insa nu stiu sa cuantific diferenta tehnologica de la configuratia mea de acum. Am vazut ca au aparut procesoare Ryzen cu iGPU mai performant.

Cum se comporta Ryzen G la partea de stabilitate/compatibilitate? Mai sunt si alte beneficii pe langa CPU, gen viteze mai bune la SSD NVME? Cu alte cuvinte, are rost sa ma gandesc la upgrade sau nu ar fi prea vizibil? Sau pe de alta parte, in tabara intel e ceva comparabil?

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Old 05-10-2021, 23:52   #2
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Salut,

Nu e tocmai validă opinia mea, pentru că nu am testat personal. Dar am un prieten care și-a făcut un sistem cu 5700G fix pentru developing și e foarte mulțumit. Lucrează mult pe Phyton, C/++ și Linux
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Problema la Ryzen G e ca iGPU-ul nu suporta custom resolution pe hdmi (cel putin in Win 10 si cu monitorul meu mai vechi Fujitsu: pur si simplu nu pot iesi din 640x480).

Pe acelasi monitor 27" QHD am putut sa pun pe HDMI orice rezolutie suporta fizic monitorul (nu si in specificatii) atat cu iGPU Intel cat si cu diverse placi Nvidia.

Altfel pe monitor de generatie noua iGPU-ul din Ryzen G s-a dus direct in QHD 144Hz pe HDMI fara probleme (ce mi-a placut a fost ca aveam fix 144.0Hz si nu 143.99Hz cum aveam cu restul ).

Deci la ce monitor vrei sa-l pui si pe ce conexiune? Pe DP s-ar putea sa nu ai probleme.
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Va multumesc. Momentan am un monitor ultra wide de 29" 60Hz 2560x1080 DP/HDMI si cand asta se duce, o sa trec probabil spre ceva la 35" si refresh mai mare.

Avand in vedere experienta oarecum neplacuta cu DeskMini m-as orienta spre ceva care sa nu imi dea freeze-uri/sa fie rock solid. Poate ar fi mai bine sa ma orientez spre o configuratie OEM si nu sa le incropesc eu pe genunchi
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Eu am 5600g pe B450, zero probleme de compatibilitate. Am monitor DP cu custom rezolution la [email protected] 75hz si merge ok. Zero probleme de stabilitate, zero probleme de orice fel cu asta. Memoriile sunt 2666 nativ dar le-am dus la 3200 cu 1.35v. Am activat si sTPM sau cum se cheama, e compatibil acum cu win11.

Daca doresti, pot testa HDMI custom resolution, daca e ceva ce doresti sa folosesti.
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Mersi de info. Nu folosesc custom resolution.
Ca si comparatie, din tabara intel, care ar fi un echivalent?
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Echivalent pe ce anume? Video? Nu stiu daca este. La Nvidia e cam GT 1030.
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Ma gandeam ca au si ei ceva in genul Xe sau cum se laudau cu GPU-urile... Vad ca gen 12 pare sa aiba potential bun si o sa fie lansat posibil la finele lunii curente
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Ca si comparatie, din tabara intel, care ar fi un echivalent?
Deschizi topicul cu dorința de trecere de la Intel la Ryzen, lumea îți spune că e mai bun Ryzen 5600g, apoi întrebi care e echivalentul Intel pentru ăsta.

Futu-i mama ei de logică
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Nu zic ca 5600g e mai bun ca 5700g! Daca e computerul principal, clar ia 5700g. Eu am ales 5600g pentru ca oricum e mai rapid ca vechiul 2700, chiar daca e doar 6 core plus ca are video integrat, a fost numai bine. De fapt, pentru mine videoul ala a contat. Din nou, e rock solid. Eu am si 2 laptopuri cu Ryzen, un Pro 4750U, un 4300U si mama mea are inca un 4300U. Zero probleme.
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Multumesc mbc, de mare ajutor! Asta e ce ma interesa in primul rand, sa stiu ca e stabila platforma.

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Multumesc mbc, de mare ajutor! Asta e ce ma interesa in primul rand, sa stiu ca e stabila platforma.

Sanatate maxima!
Pai Ryzen dupa gen 1xxx nu a prea mai avut probleme de compatibilitate . Iar acum ... macar o parte dintre producatori vor merge fortat spre optimizare multicore . Am si eu 2 Ryzen 4xxxH si 4xxxU . Sunt calumea, pana acum (aproape 1 an si jumatate) .
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eu am avut o grămadă de probleme
măcar cu placa asta de baza nu am si la usb ...(cred..si sper...)

la mine au fost ....

freeze
reset
nu am putut sa folosesc mult timp soft ul de la rami (crucial) incompatibil cu ceva driver de la amd...
mai primesc cate un reset asa din senin , e mai rar dupa 3 biosuri si windows update dar tor mai vine cate unul...

am avut 2 placi video, 2 chituri de ram , 2 surse ( am facut swap doar 1 zi , schimbat ssd si nmve....
am avut si alta placa de baza dar doar pentru cateva zile pana am facut retur

de 2 ori s -au deconectat usb rile in cazul meu mouse si tastatura la prima placa de baza , am patit si la a doua 1 singura data deci nu pot sa fiu sigur daca are probleme sau nu.

diferite bios-uri au insemnat alt raspun al procului la PBO
, acum cu ultimul e mai stabil dar si perf. e mai slaba.
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