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Old 06-01-2021, 19:32   #1241
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Gasisem asta acum ceva timp si i-am dat bookmark in caz ca o sa am si eu pe 5950x. Cred ca e de la BIOS-urile "stable" care-s de fapt beta.

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Old 09-01-2021, 21:56   #1242
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Al doilea 5900x se tine bine,nicio eroare whea,de cateva zile de cand il am.Cu primul si fara boost ,totul default am luat restart si erori in hwinfo.
Aceleasi componente,memoriile stabile pe vreo 3 zen2,4x8gb corsair 3200,nu sunt cine stie ce,dar merg si la 3600mhz in caz de nevoie.

Cine are erori cu zen 3 sa-i dea retur,sa nu mai stea ca mine sa caute solutii,se pare ca sunt niste probleme si cu procesoare defecte,nu doar agesa.

https://www.reddit.com/search/?q=5900x%20whea

https://community.amd.com/t5/process...423321/page/31

https://www.overclock.net/threads/re...774627/page-32

https://translate.google.com/transla...tun.1284123%2F
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Old 09-01-2021, 22:22   #1243
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Depinde, eu am avut WHEA errors cu primul BIOS pe 5600x, dar s-a dovedit a fi de la RAM, la peste 3200 mhz primeam erori. Dupa un update s-a rezolvat, acum nu mai am erori, crash-uri sau ceva.
Totusi este posibil ca in primele batch-uri de procesoare, sa fie si rebuturi.

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Old 09-01-2021, 22:27   #1244
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Pai si eu cu acelasi ram,tot stoc,de ce cu primul am luat 6 restarturi in 1 ora cu primul 5900x(load bios default) si cu al doilea merge brici de 3 zile?

Daca citesti ce linkuri am pus sunt multi care au schimbat procesoarele si nu mai au probleme.Nu e treaba mea ca user sa gasesc nu stiu ce voltaje,ca unele proace duc mai bine boost ,altele au nevoie de curve optimizer +8 sa tina boostul pe single core.Este loterie la ora asta cu seria 5xxx.
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Old 11-01-2021, 16:12   #1245
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Schimbat 1600x cu 3700x. Placa de baza rezista.
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Old 15-01-2021, 14:49   #1246
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am g skillz 3600 mhz cl 16 16 16 36 adica samsung b die si vreau sa le duc in 3800mhz, stie cineva cu ce cl si ce voltaj?
M-as juca un pic cu memoriile si 1900 fclk la 5800x dar am un asus strix x570 si daca nu booteaza trebuie sa scot bateria, asa ceva nu am pomenit, sa ramana sistemul blocat si sa nu pot da un reset in anul 2021
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Old 15-01-2021, 18:56   #1247
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Teoretic ar trebui sa mearga 3800 cu aceleasi latente ca la 3600 si acelasi voltaj.
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Old 15-01-2021, 18:57   #1248
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Incearca https://www.techpowerup.com/263451/d...1-7-0-released. versiunea1.7.0 are niste preseturi utile. Pe mine m-a ajutat si [url]https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-memory-tweaking-overclocking-guide. Multumesc pentru ce memorii mi-ai recomandat scuty junior. Sant super ok ,au pornit si la 4000 cl18 cu 1.4v.

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Old 16-01-2021, 01:53   #1249
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Old 16-01-2021, 10:31   #1250
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E normala viteza de scriere la memorii ?

DIMM Colorful iGame DIMM DDR4 3200Mhz 8GB
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Old 16-01-2021, 11:19   #1251
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Da, e normala.
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Old 16-01-2021, 16:56   #1252
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stiti cumva daca pot modifca edc la 5800x? se duce in maxim adica 145 si cred ca ma limiteaza.
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Old 16-01-2021, 17:50   #1253
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La setari overclock > PBO > pui pe manual si ar trebui sa ai setare.

Eu astept AGESA 1.1.8.0 ca sa am acces la undervolt. Creste prea mult consumul si temperatura pentru zero performanta reala la AMD cu overclock sau PBO activat.
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Old 17-01-2021, 16:49   #1254
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ANOMALII TEMPERATURI 5800X:

eu vad problema in felul urmator:

a) 5600x are un chiplet cu 6c, 5900X are 2 chiplet-uri cu 6c, se incalzezc decent si cu PBO nu au fost probleme;
b) 5800X se incalzeste cu numai un chiplet cu 8c si in jur de 20% din CPU sunt OK, restul se incalzesc mai mult decat 5900X cu 12c, nu e logic ca un chiplet de 8c sa se incalzeasca mai tare decat 2 chipleturi de 6c - asta inseamna ca AMD a facut iar magarii;
c) aduceti-va aminte de seria ryzen 1000, linux bug pana la loturile 1724, threadripperele care erau toate loturi de la 1725 in sus;
d) magaria o vad in felul urmator: dupa litografiere cele mai bune chipleturi 8c merg in EPyc. Este proces pe 7nm cu arhitectura si ceva litografiere probabil schimbata, sunt ceva dureri ale facerii (cu toate ca nu ar trebui). AMD a avut yielduri mici pe 8c si atunci cele mai bune au mers in Epyc, si toate cele functionale chiar daca la temperaturi foarte mai care trebuieau declasate, le-au bagat la vanzare - sa se descurce fraierii cu racirea - sa scape de ele sa-si recupereze banii sa nu le declaseze si sa piarda bani - question of politics.
e) asta e teoria mea s-ar putea sa ma insel sau s-ar putesa vedem loturile de 5800X din 2021 cu yielduri mari fara probleme de incalzire si cu temperaturi intre 5600X si 5900X average cum ar fi normal.

S-ar putea sa ma insel, time will tell.
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Old 18-01-2021, 10:14   #1255
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Pai nu-i evident, cele mai bune la Epyc, restu... la restu. Daca ar face banu gros din 5800x, ai vedea cele mai bune implementari de 5800x.

Dar cum d'astia ca noi de cumparam procesoare la bucata suntem probabil ultima lor grija. N-ai la ce sa te astepti. Ei vin si zic ca-i ok 85°C (nu mai stiu exact temp) si e "within the spec". Tre' sa recunosti ca fata de Intel, solutia asta cu chiplet-uri e o treaba excelenta din punct de vedere a "gunoaielor".

Ce-i de cacao e ca au avut 5950x-uri d'alea care nu mergeau in idle. Ca deh probabil ca nu testeaza nimeni procesoare in idle.
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Old 18-01-2021, 13:51   #1256
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Pai nu-i evident, cele mai bune la Epyc, restu... la restu. Daca ar face banu gros din 5800x, ai vedea cele mai bune implementari de 5800x.

Dar cum d'astia ca noi de cumparam procesoare la bucata suntem probabil ultima lor grija. N-ai la ce sa te astepti. Ei vin si zic ca-i ok 85°C (nu mai stiu exact temp) si e "within the spec". Tre' sa recunosti ca fata de Intel, solutia asta cu chiplet-uri e o treaba excelenta din punct de vedere a "gunoaielor".

Ce-i de cacao e ca au avut 5950x-uri d'alea care nu mergeau in idle. Ca deh probabil ca nu testeaza nimeni procesoare in idle.

Eu am patit-o cu primul 5900x defect,whea si restart la greu ,bios default.Cu al doilea merge brici,mai am noroc si de 2 CCD identice,voltaj,wati per core la fel.
Amd vrea sa valorifice tot,de aici si 5600x si 5800x cu 2 CCD,5900x si 5950 rebuturi.
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Old 30-01-2021, 23:11   #1257
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Pentru un laptop de youtube ce ati alege? Ryzen 5 3500U (RAM Dual Channel 2400 Mhz) sau Ryzen 4300U (RAM Dual Channel 3200 Mhz)?
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Eu as merge pe 4300u, din urmatoarele motive:
- frecvente net superioare la cpu
- zen 2 vs zen+, ipc mai mare, si 7nm vs 12
- ram la 3200

Si pana la urma si 3500 tot quad core este, o sa beneficieze cateva softuri de alea 4t virtuale in plus, dar nu cred ca va fi peste nici in multi thread, din cauza de freceventa + ipc.
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Old 31-01-2021, 00:18   #1259
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Ce ii aia laptop de youtube? Sa te uiti la yt doar? pai atunci ipad.
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Laptop de youtube = laptop cu care se fac treburi care sunt sub youtube ca dificultate. Ipad nu este un laptop. Un laptop, trebuie sa fie un laptop prima data ca sa fie laptop de Youtube. Oricum, foarte tipic raspunsul "You're doing it wrong, nu stii de ce ai nevoie, stim noi mai bine, ai nevoie de un ipad" Fuuck no!

PS: Am luat cu Ryzen 3 4300U.
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