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Old 18-09-2021, 11:54   #181
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Eu am luat UPS-uri de la un tip de pe olx si e foarte ok omul, cat si marfa lui. Iau de la el chestii de ani de zile.
Vin cu accu CSB? Ca m-ar interesa si pe mine unn SUA 1500.
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A sosit la easybox, incerc sa ii fac un minireview.
Modelul este UPS Eaton 5E 850VA/480W, cumparat de la eMag cu 330lei.

In cutie avem UPS-ul, 2 cabluri de UPS si o fituica(manual).
In cutie nu avem cablul USB de management si cablul de alimentare.

Am descarcat softul care este ceva minimalist, am pus poze. Nu consuma procesor.

UPS-ul este fabricat in Filipine acum un an si reincarcat in iunie 2021.
In interior am vazut condensatoare electrolitice certificate la 105grade produse de Nantong Jianghai Capacitor Co., Ltd., Nantong (China).
Baterie de 9Ah este marca Leoch, modelul cu specificatiile de aici http://www.leoch.com/pdf/reserve-pow...3.0-202101.pdf. Nu am scos bateria ca pareau niste sigilii pe suruburi.

O sa ii fac si un test de power outage, dar il las pana maine la incarcat.
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Old 18-09-2021, 21:12   #183
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Softul EATON cred ca arata consumul spre priza. APC, CyberPower, Delta aratau sistemul idle cu monitor pornit vreo 96Watt (retin la APC valoarea, la Delta am convertit procentele si pe acolo erau, la CyberPower aveam sub 100Watt).
La EATON am 150Watt, cred ca arata consumul spre priza, nu spre clienti. Bateria inca se incarca de la pranz, e la 96% (au trecut cam 8h de cand l-am pus in priza, bateria e de la 16% la 96%).
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Old 18-09-2021, 21:25   #184
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Zice output, nu input. E mai putin eficient probabil.
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Old 19-09-2021, 03:55   #185
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Gizăs, dar cu 50% mai puțin eficient?

Ideal ar fi fost sa se masoare cu wattmetru in priza in care intra UPC-ul.

Oricum, la 50W disipati continuu de-a-mpulea ar trebui sa mearga un ventilator continuu in el.

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Old 19-09-2021, 11:11   #186
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Am gresit eu, atat imi consuma desktopul cu monitorul pornit.
Am gasit cauzele. La power options am un AMD Ryzen Power Plan care imi tinea procesorul intre 90% si 100%. L-am modificat la minim 5% si am mai castigat vreo 7Watt. Eram intrigat de ce sta la 3.8GHz procesorul in idle. Am pus o poza cu idle (ce imi raporteaza programele).
Am 4 module de 16GB, 2 la 2400MHz si 2 la 2666MHz. Sunt la 2666MHz si consuma o idee mai mult sistemul. Cred ca (nu am verificat) am pus un +0.10V la memorii din cauza asta.

Anyway, iata si testul:
10:31:30 - start test
10:41:30 - 48% incarcare baterie dupa 10 min
10:42:46 - stop test (11min15sec) la 40% baterie
Am oprit testul ca sa am ceva baterie si in caz de pana de curent.
Sunt multumit de UPS, isi face treaba.

UPS-ul este dead silent cand este alimentat, face un bazait infundat cand e lipsa tensiune, este mai silentios decat vechiul APC Back-UPS CS 650VA BK650EI; APC bazaia mai tare si cand era alimentat.
Softul de management nu consuma resurse. La Delta imi tinea un core la 80% si consuma curent.

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Old 23-09-2021, 23:37   #187
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UPS-ul este mai neeficient, chiar consuma cu vreo 50Watt in plus fata de restul.
Cand este alimentat raporteaza 150Watt in loc de 96Watt APC (sistem in idle).
Cand este power outage creste comsumul la 177Watt.
Am facut un burn-in test cu FurMark (GPU+CPU) si imi arata vreo 440Watt, APC nu a raportat consum mai mare de 390Watt in aceleasi conditii (iarasi din amintiri, dar sigur am vazut sub 400Watt la APC).

Vestea buna este ca, la pretul de 330lei, Eaton este compatibil cu un NAS QNAP TS-230. L-a recunoscut din prima.

LE: Imi trebuie o priza care imi arata consumul. Asa se poate vedea exact cat este inainte de UPS si dupa UPS. Poate ca raporteaza aiurea softul, Eaton este mai rece decat Delta. Aa, Delta Agilon VX 1000VA nu este recunoscut de QNAP TS-230.
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Old 01-02-2022, 23:24   #188
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Dupa ce mi-au murit acumulatorii de 40Ah vechi de fix 2 ani (FirstPower LFP1240, luati de pe Caranda.ro) am mers inainte de a-i inlocui cu UPS-ul la un tip care se pricepe la asa ceva. A reusit sa se lege prin serial la el si sa-i schimbe niste valori.

In special, voltajul de incarcare. L-am scazut de la 27.7v (adica 13.85v/acumulator) la 27.4v (13.7v). In mod real, una e la 13.6, alta e la 13.8, dar e absolut normala diferenta de voltaj in float pentru ca sunt in serie.
In sarcina sunt insa +- 50mv intre ele, deci stau foarte bine. Abia la ~10.1v incep sa se distanteze, cand deja sunt aproape goale.

Am facut calibrare manuala cu proiectorul halogen de 500W si a rezistat ~1h45min. Incarcarea de la 0>100% a durat apoi ~9-9.5hr.

Per total ma astept sa reziste mult mai bine in timp acum. Ori a fost o duda una din bateriile vechi, ori a omorat-o voltajul prea mare.
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Conteaza mai repede calitatea acumulatorilor decat o diferenta de 0.3v la incarcare.
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A venit timpul sa schimb acumulatorii la APC SmartUPS 1500 (SUA1500I) varianta tower, nu rack. Din specificatii trebuie RBC7.

Load constant e 20%(router, switch, server, nas, wifi ap)
@mbc, ce recomanzi? Daca trebuie sa dau 15 bete, dau 15 bete. E mai ieftin decat sa risc echipamentul din rack.
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BB sau CSB. Cam astea vin si cu bateriile originale.
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ms, voi scoate azi bateriile existente sa vad ce specificatii au. In functie de asta, iau CSB sau la nevoie OEM.
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SUA 1500 are 2 baterii de 17 sau 18 ah.
Acesta e modelul.
https://baterie-ups.ro/en/home/35-ac...-12v-17ah.html
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Are 2x BB 12V 17Ah. Ms de link, pus comanda la 2x GP12170.
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update, au revenit in stoc. trebuie sa ajunga saptamana asta GP12170 12V 17Ah Battery
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Schimbat bateriile, totul bine.
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De curiozitate, la ce voltaj iti tine bateriile? I-ai facut runtime calibration dupa?
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Rezultatul e dupa runtime calibration si lasat sa reincarce 100%.
Battery Voltage 27.3VDC

Masurat bateriile inainte sa le montez si aveau 12.92V / baterie.
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E super 27.3v in float, o sa aiba viata lunga.
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Aseara ma jucam linistit COD: Modern Warfare Remastered pentru prima data si observ pe telefon ca este conectat la LTE in loc de wifi. OK, no biggie, s-o fi saturat de wifi Verific rapid pe computer, lipsa legatura la net. Aveam link, dar nu aveam router, ap, nimic. Ma duc rapid sa verific rack-ul cu routerul si luminite palpaitoare peste tot iar UPS-ul cu becul de "running on batteries" aprins dar nimic nu mergea corect. Nu stiu daca UPS-ul a stricat bateria sau daca bateria a stricat UPS-ul. Era prezent un miros electric specific, "magic smoke".

Rezultat:
-un alimentator POE stricat
-un UPS indoit (poze)
-un acumulator umflat (poze).

Mentiuni:
-Acumulatorul a fost cumparat in Februarie 2017, dupa specificatii trebuia schimbat maxim in Februarie 2022, este acumulator de pana la 5 ani.
-A fost foarte dificil de scos acumulatorul defect din UPS.
-UPS-ul nu a dat nici o eroare de "replace battery - bec rosu" inainte de eveniment.
-Inca nu am incercat sa ii pun alt acumulator si sa vad ce se intampla, UPS-ul e afara si astept sa se duca mirosul de magic smoke. Dupa aceea il voi deschide si verific cum arata in interior.
-Am comandat 3 acumulatori noi pentru a avea la UPS-urile care se ocupa de retelistica si serverul de fisiere, toti acumulatorii fiind din 2017. Mai am de inlocuit si altii, dar acestia sunt cei mai importanti.
-Link acumulatori: https://smdshop.ro/produse/ups-uri-a...h-bb-4399.html
-Am cumparat 2 alimentatoare Mikrotik, unul ca sa il inlocuiesc pe cel defect si unul de backup.
-Link alimentatoare Mikrotik:
1. 24v 0.8A, pentru WAP AC (compatibil si cu CAP AC, daca nu faci PoE Passthrough): https://www.wifistore.ro/cumpara/sur...ik-18pow-74742
2. 24v 1.2A, pentru CAP AC, compatibil si cu WAP AC: https://www.wifistore.ro/cumpara/sur...1200gr2a-74748





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