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Old 30-01-2023, 21:17   #1461
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Nu mai pup iar asa ceva.
Se poate se poate.
Uite dupa 10h de PC on. In zilele bune sunt si 5 cores la 5006

5950x ar trebui sa ajunga la un 330-350W in linpack load. 282W am atins eu max si a rezistat 60s, 250-270W rezista cu orele.
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Old 30-01-2023, 22:57   #1462
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De dus pe single se duce, dar doar pentru ca am EDC @ stock (140A). Ideea e ca acum e ori optimizat pentru multi-core, ori pentru single thread. Daca duc EDC mai sus trage W garlă in multi, nu aia e problema.

Cu BIOS-ul vechi scotea super si-n single, si-n multi.
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Old 31-01-2023, 12:00   #1463
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Cand am intrebat initial, nimeni nimic. De sleep nu ma intereseaza, dar ramul la 5200 de ce? Care e de vina? Placa de baza sau RAM-ul? Cu care placa merge ram-ul linistit la 6000?

Vad ca BIOS-ul stable la Asrock este din 26.10.2022, BIOS-ul de la Asus B650 Prime e din 25.11.2022, la GB e din 29.12.2022 iar la MSI 14.11.2022. Mda.
scuze n-am vazut intrebarea.
ramul ar trebui sa mearga 6000 linistit, insa fara sleep. Ce e >= 5600 omoara sleep.

cu ram-ul trebuie testat pentru ca am citit pe reddit unii la case mai mari (taichi/ x650) care se plangeau de systeme care nu sunt stabile / nu booteaza la 6000.
eu n-am problema asta cu un kit de kingston 5600 am bootat lejer cu xmp/expo si la 6000, toate trecut cateva ore bune de memtest.

Ah si sa te astepti macar primele cold boot-uri sa fie lungi, eu am avut cateva minute, insa am auzit si de 10-15 minute.
Acum boot-ul e 30 secunde sau ceva peacolo.
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Old 31-01-2023, 12:11   #1464
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Merci de raspuns. Memoriile le-am luat cu Expo si sunt oficial de 6000, poate ajuta cu ceva. Problema cu sleepul probabil ca va fi rezolvata in 6 luni, dar eu oricum nu am mai folosit sleep la desktop de ani de zile, deci nu e un impediment. Sper sa mearga mai bine FarCry 5 iar dupa ce imi iau placa video, sa nu fiu tras in jos de procesor.
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Old 31-01-2023, 13:51   #1465
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A venit placa si ram-ul de la PC Garage, am pus un setup temporar rapid, primul start a durat 20 de secunde, dupa care am setat memoria la 6000 si a durat inca vreo 30 de secunde. Am pun un windows, acum rulez un Cinebench, all good. Am observat ca nu e versiune foarte noua de bios, ii fac update si vedem cum se comporta dupa aceea.

Eu cred ca ati uitat cum a fost prima generatie Ryzen. Acolo au fost probleme. Asta a mers super.
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Old 31-01-2023, 14:09   #1466
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probabil conteaza referinta
Eu nu am avut aproape nici o pb pe ultimile 2 platforme intel (z97 si z370) si nici nu tin minte sa fi citit probleme de genul ce-am citit pe AM5 (probleme cu placile rtx 40xx, sleep, usb/bt check reddit)

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si chestia cu bios-urile nu e legata doar de asrock, Daca te uiti la toti (asus, msi, gigi) ai sa vezi bios-uri vechi care inca nu au rezolvat complet unele lucruri. Si asta e pentru ca asteapta pe AMD.

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Ciudat! nu ar fi trebuit sa ai pierderi de frame-uri.
Ce browser ai folosit?
Nu am avut nici un dropframe cat timp am testat.

Eu am testat in Firefox, si eu am tot GTX1080 dar am vazut ca foloseste oarecum accelerarea hardware, pentru ca am consum mai mare la intreg sistemul cand e bifata accelerarea hardware in browser(190w vs 160w fara accelerare), plus consum mai mare al placii video raportat in GPUZ si consum si incarcare mai mica pe procesor, fara accelerare hardware procesorul merge la 75% in acel clip, cu accelerare pe GPU merge cam la 50-60%.

Cu ce soft ai masurat consumul procesoarelor ?

Multumesc pentru test!
Am testat acum cu Ryzen 5 7600 si acum merge fluent pe 8k, fara drop de frame-uri. Consum (CPU Core power) intre 26w si 33w in timpul redarii.
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Old 31-01-2023, 19:01   #1468
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Multumesc pentru test, dar la cpu package ce consum are in timp ce rulezi clipul ?

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N-am CPU Core Package (poate CPU Package). Ai atasat cam cum apar toate valorile de curent.
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Da despre "CPU package" era vorba, am scris eu gresit, valoarea aceea ma interesa, deci cam acelasi consum ca si la procesorul meu.
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5700X sacadeaza si sta in 77-78W cat are el limita stock.

Deci nu o sa ma pot juca PUBG in 8K
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E foarte ciudat ca sacadeaza 5700X in acel clip, testati si in alte browsere, am incercat si eu in Chrome si sacadeaza si la mine si pierde frame-uri exact cum spune si mbc, in schimb in Firefox si Edge merge fara probleme, nu stiu care ar fi explicatia pentru ca Edge e bazat tot pe Chrome, totusi merge mai bine Edge.
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5950x, 96-100%, 4.75Ghz, 750 frames dropped out of 2000, 125w. )

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despre ce vorbim aici? seria 7xxx de la amd are gpu integrat, care face toata treaba asta de decoding, la seriile mai vechi se face de catre cpu, si decodat de 8k e fu**ing intensive.

si intel are la fel integrated gpu
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Daca dai disable HW acceleration in Chrome, n-ar trebui sa faca bypass la iGPU?
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E foarte ciudat ca sacadeaza 5700X in acel clip, testati si in alte browsere, am incercat si eu in Chrome si sacadeaza si la mine si pierde frame-uri exact cum spune si mbc, in schimb in Firefox si Edge merge fara probleme, nu stiu care ar fi explicatia pentru ca Edge e bazat tot pe Chrome, totusi merge mai bine Edge.
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In Firefox merge mai bine, aproape fluent. Dar parca tot nu este ce trebuie.

Si acum sta pe la 70-72 W
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5950x, 96-100%, 4.75Ghz, 750 frames dropped out of 2000, 125w. )

Ioi. Feels bad man....



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despre ce vorbim aici? seria 7xxx de la amd are gpu integrat, care face toata treaba asta de decoding, la seriile mai vechi se face de catre cpu, si decodat de 8k e fu**ing intensive.

si intel are la fel integrated gpu
Cam greu sa faca decoding pe iGPU cand nu avea driverele de iGPU instalate. Also, CPU usage era destul de ridicat, daca facea iGPU-ul, era sub 5%. Pur si simplu procesoarele astea noi sunt atat de bune. Also, daca nu folosesti iGPU ca si iesire de ecran nu cred ca face el accelerare in mod atat de inteligent fara niste setari clare. De exemplu Shotcut poate encoda prin encoderul AMD, dar trebuie sa fac setari, nu o face automat. Also, GPU-ul din 7600 e slab, cam jumatate performanta celui din 5600G.
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Nu cred ca foloseste iGPU odata ce in bios am ales ca gpu default placa video GTX1080, care si face ceva decodare, am zis intr-un post anterior ca in task manager se vede cum placa video decodeaza si ea cam 35% cand e bifata accelerarea hardware in browser, iar procesorul lucreaza cam la 60%, fara accelerare hardware, procesorul se duce in 75-80%, iar incarcarea pe GPU Nvidia scade pe la 20%
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Poate procesoarele astea de conceptie noua merg mai bine cu codec-ul AV1 folosit de YT la 8k ?


Si o intrebare legata de PC-ul meu 5700x + B550 Aorus Elite V2 :
Daca totul merge fara probleme mai are rost sa fac eu instalari de chipset, lan, etc fata de ce a bagat Win 10 Pro la instalare ?
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