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Old 10-11-2022, 23:37   #1
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Default 5800X3D - caldura mare, mon'ser

Dupa 8 ani si ceva, am pensionat batranul 4790K.....
In locul lui am construit un obiect care contine 5800X3D, Aorus Elite X570S AX, Ripjaws 4000 CL18 si un cooler pe aer be Quiet Dark Rock 4.

Toate bune si frumoase. Pana ajungem in zona de temperaturi....bai nene, dar se incinge rahatul asta. In momentul asta cat scriu acest mesaj, coretemp raporteaza 66-67 de grade (cu un download in background).
Repede, sub sarcina, se duce temperatura in 90 de grade, unde ramane si nu pare sa faca throttling.

Am verificat contactul coolerului cu procesorul si nu pare grav....

Asa trebe? Sau mai am de sapat eu ceva?
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Old 11-11-2022, 00:11   #2
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Cam mari temperaturile. Poti sa incerci sa faci undervolt cu PBO2 Tuner sa incerci cu -25, -30, vezi daca e stabil. O sa-ti mai scada temperaturile cu cateva grade.
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Old 11-11-2022, 00:43   #3
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Cam mult, dar ele in general sunt calde. Merge un core un pic mai tare, 3% CPU load? 70C.

Mai incearca odata sa pui coolerul / pasta. Eu am avut variatii de 5-7C intre aplicari.
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Old 11-11-2022, 00:52   #4
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Perfect normal pe aer.
"Imperfect" daca te iei dupa net, pahhahahha.

In linpack ajungi la 105 110
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Dark Rock 4 e un cooler construit sa fie silentios, cred ca are limitare la turatie la fel ca al meu. Asta se imbina perfect cu voltajul haotic cerut de frecventele turbo.

Daca ai vreo 3 zile libere, poti incerca sa-l bibilesti! Cel mai versatil e cum a spus colegul cu PBO, undervolt pe curba de voltaj.Vei avea frecvente variabile, dar cu voltaj in peak mai mic. Al meu a mers si mai sus la 4.8, 5800X3D stiu ca nu e asa prietenos cu oc-ul.

Alta varianta e sa ii faci undervolt manual si din multiplicator sa vezi cat tine, frecventa va fi fixa! Bafta, sa te tina nervii si....Windows-ul .
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Old 11-11-2022, 07:14   #6
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Don't worry, sunt temperaturi normale. Și-a schimbat un coleg 3800x care ?i făcusem custom loop acum 2 ani, cu 5800 x3d. L-a dat retur imediat la eMag că avea plus 20 și ceva de grade)
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Cam mari temperaturile. Poti sa incerci sa faci undervolt cu PBO2 Tuner sa incerci cu -25, -30, vezi daca e stabil. O sa-ti mai scada temperaturile cu cateva grade.
I-am dat cu PBO2. Vad ca il recomanda multa lume. Am reusit sa scad suficient temperaturile incat sa nu ma mai ia de cap

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In sintetice se duce spre 90 in jocuri si alte aplicati ar trebui sa ajunga in maxim 70 grade. Sa nu te gandesti ca ai nevoie de racire pe apa cred ca procu are acelasi design ca 5800x si nu se poate raci prea bine din cauza pastilei mici.
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Astea au setari gen sa stea in maxim 65W / 75W / 90W etc ?

La acelasi lucru ma uit si eu, dar pana mea ... caldura mare si zgomot de ventilatoare nu este ceea ce caut.

Am in vizor 5800x, 5800x3D, 13600 K / non-K sau 13500.

Fata de Intel 1700, AMD AM4 are avantaj pentru ca pe langa RAM-ul 32GB DDR4 voi putea folosi si cooler-ul actual. (adica am deja prinderea de AM4)
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Old 11-11-2022, 12:58   #10
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Au setari de toate felurile. Se pare ca cea mai buna varianta e cu PBO2 si -30 offset.
Ce e important la 5800x3d e ca degaja f putin caldura, prin prisma consumului ridicol de mic. Pastila e fierbinte, dar nu degaja caldura mare in ambient.
Intr-o carcasa Fractal Design Pop XL Silent + Dark Rock 4 + sursa Seasonic G12 GM-850, 80+ Gold, nu aud nimic. Am si eu acest pitic pe creier.

L.E.

Daca esti interesat careva, costul total al unitatii, fara placa video a fost aprox 5750 de lei.
Aici avem asa:
5800X3D - cel.ro - 1799 RON
Aorus Elite X570S AX - forit.ro - 1299 RON
beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 - pcgarage - 350 RON
G.Skill Ripjaws 32GB 4000 CL18 - evomag - 666 RON
Seasonic G12 GM-850 - forit.ro - 520 RON
FractalDesign Pop XL Silent - vexio.ro - 595 RON
Kingston KC3000 Gen.4 1TB - cel.ro - 544 RON

Azi imi mai vine si RX6700XT
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Vezi ca la offseturi de-alea trebuie sa incerci cu CoreCycler. In load s-ar putea sa n-ai probleme, dar din cauza algoritmului de boost s-ar putea sa-ti moara in idle cand incearca sa faca boost. Sau ai mega noroc, dar -30 All Core e fenomenal.
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Pana acu e totul bine.....am dat si cu ceva test si cu jocuri....Daca moare....aia e....dam mai sus nitel
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Cam mari temperaturi are.
Al meu nu urca mai sus de 70C in niciun joc, la chestii de office sta cam la 50C.
Asta cu un Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power.
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Aha. Hai ca ajungem undeva. Ai facut ceva deosebit cu el? Sau l-ai montat si aia a fost?

L.E. Am scos cooler, curatat pasta care a venit de la el si inlocuit cu Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. AM strans ceva mai bine suruburile si am mai scazut niste grade. Dar tot peste ce are @Otman. Cred ca tot nu am contact bun intre CPU si cooler.....bracket-ul de AM4 care vine montat in stanga socketului, sta cumva peste (si se sprijina de) radiatorul care vine peste I/O (am pus poza in atasament).
Desi, dupa ce am scos coolerul, nu parea sa fie problema de contact acolo.....
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Pentru DarkHero sunt ceva biosuri modate cu rezultate bune pt 5800x3d.
Pentru temperaturi...ca de obicei..postati un linpack, apoi solutia de racire. Al meu 5900x sta rece si la 260W si in daily tasks, ahhh, dar e racit de doar 2 rads de 360, sau decat daca tot e la moda.
Fara un capeframex si 1 2h de RDR2 sau CP77 eu nu cred in acele 70 de grade.
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Nu am facut nimic deosebit la el, l-am montat, pasta MX4, am intins-o generos cu un card pe CPU si gata.
In rest e totul stock, doar memoriile le-am pus in profilul de 3200Mhz.

Am dat 3 bench-uri...

Cu uTorrent pornit (down...up...), chrome deschis, la 1080p@75fps.

In Vermintide 2 temp max la CPU 70C, la GPU 60C
In Total War Warhammer 3 battle bench temp max CPU 68C, la GPU 62C
In Total War Warhammer 3 ie campaign map bench temp max CPU 70C, la GPU 81C

Utilizarea CPU nu a urcat mai sus de 31%.
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Sa incerci battlefield.. L-am incercat si eu dar a fost prea hot pentru gustul meu . In battlefield sarea si de 75 de grade cu -50 mv all cores.Groaznic..
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Nu joc Battlefield, alea is cam cele mai solicitante jocuri pe care le am pe PC.
Majoritatea jocurilor le joc pe PS5, PC-ul e doar pt strategii si jocuri care is mai comode sa le joc la birou.
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Eu am constant 80c ion bf 2042 si warzone , nu ma deranjeaza , cat timp nu sare de 90 poate sa stea acolo cat vrea
Ca idee il tin pe rad de 240mm cam 1300-1400rpm maxim , ,in general sta mai jos dar arunca 4080 ul are foarte cald in cooler. Fiind montat top era de asteptat sa fie mai fierbinte ...
Al meu merge ofset 0.0500mv si curve -30 dar il tin sincer cu msi kombo 3 ( un fel de OC al placi de baza ) ,
optiunea de pe MB doar incearca sa tina constant 4.45 ghz in load , o face cu brio in cpuz , in cinebench cam 4.4ghz , prime 95 putin sub , intel burn test parca 4.3 .

si al meu daca il las default fara sa reduc voltajul sare instant in 90 de grade , asta in task general , in cinebench probabil face throttling.
Dar ca idee fata de 5600x am salt mare in fps in unele jocuri , chiar si fata de 5900x merge mai bine , minim 20fps am bf , ceva min fps in warzone mai bun , in bf1 si 5 am luat boost 50fps , nfs la fel , salt imens ..


Inca nu sunt convins ca e stabil cu msi kombo strike 3



fara el mai scadeti cam 200 pct la scor
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