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Old 08-10-2020, 19:23   #8221
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5950x 4.9Ghz Boost, 105W TDP, 799$

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Old 08-10-2020, 19:29   #8222
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5600x 1747 lei
5800x 2623 lei
5900x 3208 lei
5950x 4669 lei

Preturi aproximative pentru retail in ro

Am refacut preturile
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Old 08-10-2020, 19:42   #8223
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Așa...
Monstru, când vom citi review-ul la Zen-3?

Iubițel, când vor intra în stoc noile procesoare Zen-3?
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Old 08-10-2020, 19:42   #8224
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800 eur inseamna 3900 Ron. Cu tot cu adaos nu cred ca o sa fie totusi 5000Ron la noi.

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Old 08-10-2020, 19:52   #8225
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iar 299$ inseamna ~1.240 ron la cursul BNR plus transportul
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Old 08-10-2020, 19:54   #8226
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300$ = 300 euro = 1500 lei + TVA + adaos comercial
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Probabil ca sunt foarte ocupati cu consolele si nu pot produce foarte multe Zen 3 in perioada urmatore, de aici si preturile ceva mai ridicate
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Fratilor, 3950x a avut MSRP de 750$, adica cu 50$ mai ieftin (250-300Ron) decat 5950x, iar acum un an era 4000Ron, iar de-atunci pretul minim a scazut mereu, fiind spre 3700Ron. Nu stiu de unde inca 200euro la chestia asta, ca n-ai cum sa ajungi la 200 eur dupa cate taxe vrei, pentru o marire de MSRP de 50$. Eu cred ca o sa se gaseasca lejer la 4500Ron la inceput, spre 4000 Ron dupa cateva luni.

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Old 08-10-2020, 20:50   #8229
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Intel poate trage apa după el și la capitolul gaming.
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Old 08-10-2020, 20:58   #8230
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pacat ca au stricat msrp-ul de 399$ tinut de la 1800x pana la 3800x ... au mai pus un 50 de coco la 5800x (ar fi fost frumos asa de simetrie) ... daca e justificat vedem dupa review-uri independente
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Old 08-10-2020, 21:09   #8231
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Intel poate trage apa după el și la capitolul gaming.
Ai pus poza gresita. Cea comparativa cu competitia e mai echilibrata.
Intel a devenit doar varianta budget.
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Old 08-10-2020, 21:39   #8232
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Probabil ca sunt foarte ocupati cu consolele si nu pot produce foarte multe Zen 3 in perioada urmatore, de aici si preturile ceva mai ridicate
Nu se stie sigur. Exista varianta ca nu AMD sa produca chipurile pt. console, ci sa fi oferit catre Sony/ Microsoft licenta, blueprint-ul, iar ei sa isi produca singuri restul, ca apoi AMD sa incaseze un procent din vanzarea consolelor.

E o strategie mai logica asa, decat sa vina AMD cu sacul de chip-uri in fiecare luna, sa bata la Sony la usa: Na baieti, luati marfa!

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Old 08-10-2020, 21:58   #8233
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nu cred
https://wccftech.com/amd-7nm-wafer-p...-fully-booked/

o stire mai veche ... si parca mai citsem pe undeva tot acu 5-6 luni de faptul ca amd comandase 200k sau 300k wafers de la tsmc.

deci pare ca ei se ocupa
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Monstru, când vom citi review-ul la Zen-3?

Iubițel, când vor intra în stoc noile procesoare Zen-3?
Review vei citi pe 5 noiembrie. La mine stocuri, habar nu am =))

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Nu incape doar producatia AMD pe 300K waffer-e, ce sa mai discutam despre console
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pai 300k wafere x un minim de 200-250 chiplets(desi cred ca sunt spre 400) de 7nm (nu includem IO) cate fac?

si alea 2-300K erau pentru unu sau doua quartere .... deci nu pentru toata productia si nici macar pentru un an intreg sau poate nu am inteles eu bine
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Gogule... in procesoare intra mai multe chiplets, nu doar 1. Mai precis 2 sau 4, in functie de model. In Threadripper-e pot intra si 8. Si tot pe 7nm se fac si placile grafice, care intra cam 100-150 per waffer, in functie de suprafata.

Console se vand cateva zeci de milioane in primul an de lansare. Fa tu calculul...


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Old 08-10-2020, 22:47   #8238
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stiu ca intra mai multe chiplets, dar chiar si asa ... ies sume destul de mari ... intrebarea era daca se ocupa amd sau dau la alti ?

sa zicem ca juma sunt pentru GPU juma CPU

gpu - 150.000x 100 = 15 mil

cate ciplets intra pt cpu ? sa zicem 400

150k x400 = 60 mil chiplets / 8 ... => 7,5 mil de threadrippere. sau 30mil de din astea normale .... cu 2 chiplets....

deci, eu consider ca AMD se ocupa si nu da la alti sa le fac chipu fizic .... ca tot la TSMC tre sa se duca si aia.
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Old 08-10-2020, 23:07   #8239
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Cred ca aici e o mica greseala in articol:

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Si pentru cei care au urmarit deja evenimentul de lansare, astazi nu avem sa va aratam prea multe lucruri in plus. Iar pentru cei care nu au urmarit evenimentul, dar doresc sa o faca, gasiti inregistrarea aici. Pe scurt, Lisa Su, CEO AMD, Mark Papermaster, CTO AMD, respectiv Robert Hallock, Director of Technical Marketing AMD, au prezentat succint primele 4 modele din gama AMD Ryzen 3000, bazate pe arhitectura Zen 3, cateva dintre noutatile pe care acestea le aduc, precum si o serie de benchmark-uri realizate in-house.
Ryzen 5000? e Zen 3 dar nah.
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EU cred ca pentru console folosesc 7nm+ EUV si pentru desktop vechiul 7nm

1 wafer = ~800 chipleturi

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...ores_and_full/

Problema este capacitatea de productie si lantul logistic pentru a livra milioane de chipuri functionale - testate pentru console ...
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