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Old 13-10-2021, 11:43   #1
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Default Ryzen9 5950x Temp

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Am o problema cu un Ryzen 9 5950x si anume orice as face, in idle sta tot timpul in 45-55 de grade, ca si cooler am un Noctua nh-d15 cu un singur fan.

- nu are PBO activ
- nu am facut OC

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Old 13-10-2021, 11:55   #2
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Placa de baza? Versiune BIOS?
Ideal ar fi sa faci un update la ultima versiune de BIOS non-beta. De asemenea, asa sunt procesoarele AMD ryzen, si la mine fluctueaza intre 30-40 de grade in idle sau usor incarcat, dar am vazut si 50-55 de grade miscand din mouse in idle si am radiator de 420mm...
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Old 13-10-2021, 12:13   #3
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Placa de baza e un MSI x570 Gaming Plus cu ultimul BIOS non-beta(7C37vAE).
Ca si pasta am pus Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut.

Nu stiu daca si la tine e la fel sau nu, dar daca ma uit cu HWMonitor si AMD Ryzen Master e o diferenta de cel putin 8-9-10 grade intre cele doua programe de monitorizare
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eu am 5600x si la fel daca navighez pe net urca la 50 grade usor si in general doar daca sta in idle si nu misc cursorul am undeva la 35-40 grade
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Old 13-10-2021, 13:20   #5
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Eu pe 5800X PBO off manual OC am in load in prime cu voltaj 1.25v 75 grade cu 1.1v 68 grade maxim... cinebench mai jos cu 5-7 grade si in gaming sub ~50 grade care nu sunt CPU demanding...ventilatoarele la 850RPM... cu triger la 70 grade plus sa sara la 1200RPM.

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Poti verifica urmatoarele... scoti procu si il pui pe o sticla si vezi daca se roteste... la fel verifici si cu cooler-ul... daca ambele se rotesc usor ai nevoie de laping la ambele ASAP. Cand dai cooler-ul jos verifica pasta daca a prins bine. Totodata cand pui pasta pe CPU intinde-o pe 85% din suprafata, adica pana aproape de margine. Cand montezi procu inainte sa tragi "frana" apasa pe el ca sa prinda bine. Cand scoti/bagi procu in socket 100% trebuie sa fie scos din priza, risti sa arzi mobo-ul.

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Placa de baza e un MSI x570 Gaming Plus cu ultimul BIOS non-beta(7C37vAE).
Ca si pasta am pus Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut.

Nu stiu daca si la tine e la fel sau nu, dar daca ma uit cu HWMonitor si AMD Ryzen Master e o diferenta de cel putin 8-9-10 grade intre cele doua programe de monitorizare
Eu folosesc hwinfo64 si temperatura aratata de acesta corespunde cu ce arata placa de baza.
Ideea e ca daca in load sustinut, gen cinebench sau randari, nu ai temperaturi care sa te ingrijoreze, aceste varfuri nu prea conteaza.
Eu am in diferite aplicatii multithreaded 55 de grade, dar inainte de a incepe am varfuri de 60-65 de grade.
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Eu folosesc hwinfo64 si temperatura aratata de acesta corespunde cu ce arata placa de baza.
Ideea e ca daca in load sustinut, gen cinebench sau randari, nu ai temperaturi care sa te ingrijoreze, aceste varfuri nu prea conteaza.
Eu am in diferite aplicatii multithreaded 55 de grade, dar inainte de a incepe am varfuri de 60-65 de grade.
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Am testat cam hmm 12-15 minim pana acum de 5950x si cu delid si fara la toate temperatura in idle era maricica, exact cum a spus Augustus poate deschid chrome si am spyke la 68 grade dar in 3 ore de stress test am 65 sau tot 67 ,important este sa nu ai spyke uri spre limite superioare gen 80+.

Nu conteaza ca ai in idle 45-50 daca in full load ai 65 maxim sau ceva de genul,nu e ca la nu stiu intel 7700k de aveam idle cu 3 grade peste temperatura ambientala) e totusi un monstru cu multe coruri.

PS:Cele testate au fost racite cu custom loop 360 radiator de 60, pompa potenta ek ,traseu destul de scurt,etc nu cu vreo prastie de cooler.
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@Gaminggrade fix asa e si al meu, doar ca mai am nitel de umblat pe la voltaje.
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Spike-uri aiurea nu are voie sa faca fara PBO. El pe langa ce i-am zis sa faca are nevoie sa reduca si VID-ul cat mai jos pentru el, gen 4300 cu ~1.1 =/-0.05

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Spike-uri aiurea nu are voie sa faca fara PBO. El pe langa ce i-am zis sa faca are nevoie sa reduca si VID-ul cat mai jos pentru el, gen 4300 cu ~1.1 =/-0.05
3700x si 3950x, cu ambele sunt spike-uri in orice, inclusiv idle la un anumit interval cu pbo si fara pbo. Nu am spike-uri cand rulez ceva intensiv, gen randez ceva sau calculez vreo cladire, dar daca fiind in idle misc de mouse, temperatura sare cu vreo 9-10 grade instant. Si culmea e ca temperatura spike-urilor e cu 5-10 grade mai mare decat temperatura daca il stresez pe bune.
Ca idee, eu am PBO dezactivat, pentru ca imi creste consumul si temperatura cu 5-10 grade pentru 1-2% spor de performanta
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La mine nu creste daca misc mouse-ul ... wtf... mi se pare absurd.
Am la indemana doar doar 3 proace 3700X si 5800X si 5800X pe laptop (la asta nu pot umbla, e full PBO si media la el e 75-85 grade in functie de power profile), mobo-uri am avut mai multe dar pe niciuna nu a facut asa, comportamentul pe care il descrii e tipic PBO / turbo sau pStates daca nu ai frecventa fixa sau profile de power de ryzen ok.
Eu tin frecventa fixa, voltaj fix si nu exista asa comportament. De ce tin fixa ? Pai... pentru ca prefer performanta constanta si consistenta iar media consumului la frecventa fixa vs idle states e tot pe acolo.
@Gaminggrade - deacord, procu e animal, disiparea de caldura nu e tocmai optima pe el, am vazut ca multi se plang de temperaturi mari pe toate seriile si cu coolere de top si nu inteleg cum.

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La mine sta uneori mult timp in idle si am lasat totul pe auto, nici nu prea mai am tragere de inima sa-mi bat capul cu bibilit frecvente, voltaje etc. Plug and play.
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Depinde ce programe ai in fundal, mie cateodata G.Skill (pentru controlat RGB la RAM) imi tine un thread sus de tot si ajunge la 71C (evident, 1.5v in core-ul ala). In clipa asta e pe la 45-50 in idle, si am ditamai waterblock-ul trantit pe el. Asa-s ele de la mamitica lor.
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Nici nu stiam ca 5950x duce 1.5 V ... eu n-am sarit niciodata de 1.35 insa si la 1.35 am temperaturi foarte mari (in special daca imping all cores la 4.6)
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Eu pe 5900x nu am spike-uri si am PBO activat. Single 5ghz si multicore intre 4.45 si 4.5 ghz... Temperatura maximă undeva la 75C cu limita la 165w.. Chiar nu are rost mai mult ca arunc curentul pe geam [emoji23].

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Deci exact e exact ce ziceam. PBO-ul nu e ce trebuie... inca...

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Nici nu stiam ca 5950x duce 1.5 V ... eu n-am sarit niciodata de 1.35 insa si la 1.35 am temperaturi foarte mari (in special daca imping all cores la 4.6)
Are PBO on si daia da in el 1.5v Asa si eu aveam rapotat in bios 1.475 si am zis wtf... stai asa ... Boost-ul ala din PBO te ajuta maxim cateva minute... apoi frecventa de regula scade sub cat ii pot da tu manual. Dupa maxim 15-30 min tu pe frecventa fixa ai performanta mai mare pe el decat cu PBO on. Teoretic daca stii sa bibilesti PBO si OC advance din bios faci ceva misto dar e meh... mult timpi pierdut pt ce ?
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5900X PBO ON / PPT 155W / EDC 140A / CO Enabled răcit de Liquid Freezer 360 Push-Pull.

4.95GHz Single / 4.60 - 4.65GHz Multi

IDLE: 26-29 grade.
LOAD: 60-66 grade, în funcţie de aplicaţie.
STRESS: 66-69 grade (y-Cruncher).

Spike-urile sunt normale, din idle, de la 29 grade, dacă deschid browserul, sare la 56 grade, dar coboara la 35 rapid.
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Oricum e haios cand vezi ca in aplicatii de cacao unde baga tare pe un core se duce in temp foarte mari, dar cand ii bagi toate core-urile in full load sta considerabil mai rece. Dar pana la urma asa a ajuns seria asta sa aiba performante faine atat in single cat si in multi.
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Nu are importanta ce temperatura are in Idle, daca in load e ok.
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