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Old 18-03-2021, 12:14   #361
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Nu ai optiune sa setezi frecventa ce o doresti (3600 de ex) si la IF sa lasi placa pe auto sa vezi daca booteaza si ce IF isi seteaza automat?

Ca idee, eu am 2 kituri diferite ca model, care luate separat merg sesizabil mai bine decat puse in pereche daca vreau sa la duc la 3800/4000, insa la 3600 merg identic ca voltaje dram si soc ca si cum ar fi 2x8 si nu 4x8.
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Old 18-03-2021, 12:42   #362
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Ba da, dar pe Auto la IF imi da la 3600Mhz pentru memorii, 1600FCLK si 900BCLK. Because fuck logic. Iar treaba asta imi arunca latentele in pom. E mult mai ok sa rulez la 3200 1:1. Acum, daca as putea sa strang latentele alea cat pot de tare la 3200...
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Old 18-03-2021, 13:17   #363
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Latentele sunt in nanosecunde la Taiphoon burner. Vezi ca exista posibilitatea sa ti le exporte, ca sa poti sa le inroduci manual.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...port_your_xmp/
https://www.overclock.net/threads/na...urner.1774149/
La mine nu am reusit, si mi-am rupt capul vreo saptamana.
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Old 18-03-2021, 13:19   #364
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ryzen clock nu ajuta?
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Old 18-03-2021, 14:54   #365
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cand iti faci update la specificatii profil?
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Old 18-03-2021, 15:31   #366
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@Boggy
Poti incerca sa gasesti o baza stabila cu Dram calculator chiar daca e pentru Zen 2. Am importat profilul memoriilor pe care l-ai atasat mai devreme.

Tot ce e in screen-ul de mai jos trebuie setat manual in BIOS.
As porni de la voltajele maxime recomandate acolo avand in vedere ca e mult stres pe IMC (4 DIMM-uri dual rank). Ar fi ceva bataie de cap si mult trial&error.

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Old 18-03-2021, 15:41   #367
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https://www.guru3d.com/files-details...-download.html
asta e cel mai bun
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Old 18-03-2021, 17:09   #368
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Omul are problema cu setarea frecventelor si latentelor, nu cu ovck la cpu...
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Old 18-03-2021, 22:57   #369
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Multam tuturor. Am bagat in DRAM Calculator, am setat 3200Mhz si mi le-a dat pe astea. Cu ele bagate am avut cod 22 la boot, a trebuit sa dau clear CMOS. De unde sa mai ridic? Din principale, sa incerc cu 16 in loc de 14, sau sa umblu in alta parte?
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Old 19-03-2021, 00:18   #370
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incearca Cl 16 si tFAW 36. tRFC ar trebui trc*8. Daca tot nu pleaca cred ca mai vrea tensiune sau modificare procODT(60).
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Multam tuturor. Am bagat in DRAM Calculator, am setat 3200Mhz si mi le-a dat pe astea. Cu ele bagate am avut cod 22 la boot, a trebuit sa dau clear CMOS. De unde sa mai ridic? Din principale, sa incerc cu 16 in loc de 14, sau sa umblu in alta parte?
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Old 20-03-2021, 18:23   #372
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Alea-s in ns, nu corespunde cu altceva. Dunno exactly, sunt mega noob la chestia cu memoriile, de-aia am zis sa intreb.
@bebe_sorin30 - mersi mult, incerc azi asa!

Am avut niste dubiosenii in ultimele zile(cam ce zic baietii pe-aici), dar le-am rezolvat. Am avut niste random reboots, dar nu in idle. Ci la iesirea din idle cumva. Cel mai usor sa reproduc era Boot in Win > Pornit CB20 > lasat sa stea in idle pana vedeam CPU ca e la 28C (deci nicio activitate, cum facea ceva cum se ducea spre 33-34). > Dat RUN la Single-Thread test.
Daca ceva era in neregula aparea neagra fereastra de randare si imediat cum ar fi trebuit sa inceapa sa randeze cum dadea reboot instant.

Train of thought:
1- Voltaje dubioase, incercat cu totul pe Auto. Tot se intampla.
2- PBO, incercat si cu, si fara. Cu PBO cu +5 Curve Optimizer parca era ok, dar avand voltaj asadar caldura in plus pe core-uri, single-thread score scadea. Clar nu de aici era buba, doar bagam mizeria sub pres daca-l lasam asa. PBO Off facea la fel.
3- Degradare?! Hai cu voltaje manuale pe SOC si majoritatea acareturilor. La fel facea.
4- RAM, incercat cu Auto (2666Mhz), problema a disparut. Opa, de la RAM e.
5- Pus iar 3200 1:1, XMP incarcat, bam, iar facea.
5- Puse manual setarile secundare(tRC/tRFC/tRRD/rFAW/tCCD_L) din profilul XMP, pentru ca indiferent de faptul ca apar acolo si pot fi citite de placa de baza, placa baga AUTO la tot ce nu e principal iar unele erau in copac.

Problem solved. Am pus voltajele si pe AUTO, si pe manual, incercat si cu PBO On/Off, totul e stabil. Asadar daca se mai loveste cineva de asta, sa citeasca profilul XMP in BIOS si sa puna manual valorile de acolo.

Asadar macar am ajuns la configul de baza (inclusiv setate profilele ventilatoarelor in BIOS, ledurile, tot tot). Azi verific cat pot sa mulg din memorii la 3200 (o sa va mai bat la cap pe parcurs cred), si apoi inchei tot ce inseamna OC/setari BIOS si ma pun pe migrat programe, setari si swap la GPUs ca sa devina principal.

P.S. EX950-ul se comporta mai bine decat in review-uri. Nu stiu daca e cu un firmware si mai nou, sau s-a intamplat chestia aia cu pus fizic memorii mai bune ca nu mai au de-alea initiale, dar am 3500/3300 vs 3000/2900 cum apare in review-uri. Si in specs are 3500/2900.

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Old 20-03-2021, 18:28   #373
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Blame asrock ptr restarturile alea, ce zici tu acolo se traduce ca procesorul urca prea repede in frecventa pe cand voltajul era setat mai incet )

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Old 20-03-2021, 19:30   #374
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Asa ma gandeam si eu initial, insa aparent de la memorii era ca acum nu reusesc sa-l fac sa-si dea reboot. Am testat de la joc, editare, lasat peste noapte in idle, etc. Singura chestie care a rezolvat treaba a fost setarea manuala a memoriilor. Nu stiu cum dracu interactioneaza ele, dar de la RAM era. In cazul meu cel putin.
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Old 20-03-2021, 19:38   #375
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Si la mine e aceeasi problema, restarturi in idle cand sunt pe internet sau office. Se rezolva daca tin memoriile stock, fara xmp. Nu am avut timp sa-mi bat capul sa le pun manual latentele secundare, dar probabil voi face si eu asta.
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Old 20-03-2021, 19:55   #376
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Activeaza XMP, da restart apoi intra iar direct in BIOS. Te duci apoi si bagi manual alea care iti apar in profilul XMP. Daca nu apar in BIOS poti sa citesti profilul din RAM cu Thaiphoon Burner.

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Old 20-03-2021, 20:32   #377
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Ciudat se comporta la voi.

@Boggy, pierzi timpul cu bibilitul la 3200 mhz. Atat poate mobo, lasa pe latentele default XMP ca oricum ca nu castigi nimic semnificativ.
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Old 22-03-2021, 01:17   #378
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Am lasat secundarele cum erau setate inainte(pus manual ce apare in profilul XMP, restul pe auto), si am pus 16-18-18-20-38. Merge fain, latenta e de 45ns ceea ce e super bombastik, tele-fantastik.

Cu CL14 apare codul 22 de eroare si trebuie clear cmos.

Daca trece MemTest cu astea ma bag la secundare cum apar in DRAM Calc.

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L.E. Memtest trecut cu brio la 3200 16-18-18-20. 16ore au durat cele 4 pass-uri. Am incercat de curiozitate 16-16-16-20 si n-a luat-o, cel putin nu la 1.35v.
Nu stiu exact cum masoara PassMark latenta de arata 45 acolo (banuiesc ca sunt nanosecunde alea), dar am dat si un MemTest acum.
61845 MB/s Read | 47339MB/s Write | 61505MB/s Copy | 66.6ns

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Old 22-03-2021, 20:27   #379
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Gata si fața. Carbon fiber wrap. Atat mesh-urile pentru venturi printate 3d, cat si lateralele care erau gri. Negru + rosu = love, cel putin pentru mine.



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Old 22-03-2021, 21:09   #380
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Tare rau combinatia rosu cu carbon/negru.
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