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02-03-2017, 21:08
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Holly shit...ultima data am castigat 3 lei la un loz de 1.5 lei pe timpul lu` raposatu.
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02-03-2017, 21:12
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Originally Posted by one111
Monstru ai incercat vreun joc cu SMT off,ca am vazut in mai multe reviewuri ca cresc destul fps cu SMT oprit?
Poate jocurile de pe piata se incurca in varianta amd de hyperthreading,habar nu am,dar sunt prea multi care au observat cresteri cu SMT off.
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Si Intel dadea mai bine fara HT pe vremuri, e normal
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02-03-2017, 21:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sammurai
Holly shit...ultima data am castigat 3 lei la un loz de 1.5 lei pe timpul lu` raposatu.
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=))))
Pai de-aia nu le-a luat, ca nu stia nici macar ca a castigat.  )
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02-03-2017, 21:15
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Mda, cred ca o sa adopt metoda de 4.8 - 5 GHz OC la i7 2600K si o sa astept cuminte sa apara i7 8XXX, ca Ryzen nu ma atrage/impresioneaza deloc, cine stie, poate Ryzen v2 o sa fie mai bine rafinat.
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02-03-2017, 21:31
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Ryzen se misca in jocuri mai bine cu SMT disabled din cate se pare (+5%)...
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02-03-2017, 21:35
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Logic, si Intel se misca mai bine intr-o gramada de aplicatii fara HT pana nu demult... E vorba de optimizare
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02-03-2017, 21:49
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Da... ma gandeam ca ar fi fost interesant un procesor 8 core no SMT cum se zvonea la inceput. Dar presupun ca dezactivarea din Bios a SMT-ului (in caz de necesitate- aka Gaming) acopera si varianta asta. 
Si concluzia mea de neofit: nici un joc nu foloseste ma mult de 8 thread-uri in momentul asta... Nu, Tudor? Deci in gaming SMT-ul nu are cum sa ajute, eventual sa incurce...
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02-03-2017, 21:58
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Vazusem un clip comparativ pe net in BF1 intre 1700 fara x si 7700k ~ 4.9 sau 5 ghz. Acelasi framerate, in schimb 7700k statea in 99% load, 1700 respira usurat pe la 50% pe thread. Asa ca nu mai e mult pana core-urile o sa conteze mai mult decat acum.
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02-03-2017, 22:07
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02-03-2017, 22:31
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Vazusem un clip comparativ pe net in BF1 intre 1700 fara x si 7700k ~ 4.9 sau 5 ghz. Acelasi framerate, in schimb 7700k statea in 99% load, 1700 respira usurat pe la 50% pe thread. Asa ca nu mai e mult pana core-urile o sa conteze mai mult decat acum.
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R7 1700 ovck la 3.9 Mhz side by side cu i7 7700K (raw data):
Sigur, 1700 e de obicei cu cateva frame-uri in spatele 7700K in cateva locuri, dar nu pare sa fie un bottleneck pentru un GTX 1080 nici macar la rezolutia de 1080p ... La 1440 cred ca e si mai stransa situatia...
Iar in aplicatii sintetice 1700 cred ca e best buy...
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02-03-2017, 22:33
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@ Keyon si @ Artanis: Wish Granted! Expreview au facut clock/clock vs 6900K
L.E. Va merg imaginile bine? La mine doar prima se incarca desi am trecut cat se poate de corect codul de la imagini
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02-03-2017, 22:52
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Nu mi se încarcă nicio imagine în postul tău.
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02-03-2017, 22:55
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AMD explains why Ryzen doesn’t seem to keep up in 1080p gaming
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Ryan Shrout over at PCPer was able to get in touch with AMD’s CVP of marketing last night with an explanation as to why the Ryzen 7 1800x lags behind in 1080p gaming. The reasoning essentially boils down to developers mainly optimising games for Intel’s CPUs over the last few years as AMD has been less competitive.
“CPU benchmarking deficits to the competition in certain games at 1080p resolution can be attributed to the development and optimization of the game uniquely to Intel platforms – until now. Even without optimizations in place, Ryzen delivers high, smooth frame rates on all ‘CPU-bound’ games, as well as overall smooth frame rates and great experiences in GPU-bound gaming and VR. With developers taking advantage of Ryzen architecture and the extra cores and threads, we expect benchmarks to only get better, and enable Ryzen excel at next generation gaming experiences as well.”
With that in mind, AMD expects game performance for Ryzen to continue to improve over time as new games get released and old games get additional optimisation tweaks. This is why AMD has been making partnerships with studios like Bethesda, to ensure popular games are properly tuned to make proper use of Ryzen going forward.
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02-03-2017, 23:07
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Cu cât citesc mai multe reviewuri cu atât îs mai confuz. Cum dracu sunt diferențe așa de mari între rezultate?
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02-03-2017, 23:09
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Poate pentru ca unii nu stiu sa seteze manual un procesor in BIOS? 6900K merge la 4GHz pe toate nuclee by default pe majoritatea placilor de baza, daca nu il setezi manual in specs-urile Intel.
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02-03-2017, 23:17
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Nu mi se încarcă nicio imagine în postul tău.
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Dai f12 si vezi in consola niste Request Denied, daca apesi pe "link" in dreapta liniei din consola o sa iti deschida pozele, apoi se vor incarca si in site.
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02-03-2017, 23:24
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In alta ordine de idei, o ora si 42RON mai tarziu am ajuns acasa cu 1700-ul de la colegul Zalmodac
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02-03-2017, 23:34
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Se vad ok acum carcozep.
Va mai trece ceva apa pe Dunare pana vom digera toate testele si trage concluzii...AMD a scos totusi ceva interesant care poate ca are nevoie de mici rafinari pe partea de suport software, Bios, etc.
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02-03-2017, 23:47
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02-03-2017, 23:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monstru
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Frumos, așteptăm continuarea pentru Zen, pardon RyZen!
Mulțumim pentru review Monstru.
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