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Old 01-11-2017, 21:23   #1
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Default Sfaturi in alegere configuratie itx sau matx

Data trecuta cand am vrut sa imi iau PC am tot amanat, ba ca apare ryzen, ba ca nu sunt inca placi ITX, apoi ca vine Coffelake si tot asa. Acum PC-ul care il am da semne de oboseala.

M-am gandit la 2 configuratii si v-as ruga sa va dati cu parerea.

1. AMD
CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 = 1050 lei
MB: Gigabyte GA-AB350N Gaminig Wifi mITX = 550
RAM:Hyper X Predator 16GB 2666Mhz CL12 1.35V = 1020
SSD:960 EVO 250GB m2 = 730 lei
GPU: Inno3D 1060 Compact 3GB 1100
PSU: Corsair SF450 = 430 lei
CASE: Raijintek Metis Plus= 370 lei
Total: 5250

2. Intel
CPU: i5 8400 = 880 lei
MB: GIGABYTE Z370M D3H mATX = 600 lei
RAM:Hyper X Predator 16GB 2666Mhz CL12 1.35V = 1020
SSD:960 EVO 250GB m2 = 730 lei
GPU: Inno3D 1060 Compact 3GB 1100
PSU: EVGA B3, 80+ Bronze, 550W = 330 lei
CASE: Sharkoon CA-M = 310 lei
Total: 4970

Probabil daca la intel ii mai pun si un cooler mai ok, tot cam pe la acelasi pret ajung. Va fi folosit mult la development si vreo 10-30% la jocuri. La AMD am optiunea de mITX, eventual as putea merge pe Sharkoon CA-I care e si mai mica ca si Metis. La Intel, din lipsa placilor am doar mATX si doar chipsetul scump insa carcasa CA-M are dimensiuni asemanatoare cu una mITX.
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Old 01-11-2017, 21:29   #2
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https://altex.ro/catalogsearch/result/?q=Ryzen+5+1600

vezi si tu acum promotile de peste tot.

intreaba-l pe iubitel ce placi vide, proace, ssd-uri mai are si iti faci un pc beton de la el.
stiu ca are un gtx 1070 la 17 mil sigilata si ceva proace.
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Da, mersi, clar o sa caut preturile mai bune. Probabil astept pana la Black Friday ca tot se apropie...
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m-ATX cu prodigy M e visul meu. M-Atx am deja, tre sa mai iau prodigy )

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intreaba-l pe iubitel ce placi vide, proace, ssd-uri mai are si iti faci un pc beton de la el.
stiu ca are un gtx 1070 la 17 mil sigilata si ceva proace.
Mi-l iau pe PFA asa ca am nevoie de facturi.
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Yep.
Si eu vreau sa schimb 2600k-ul si nu ma pot lipi de Iubitel din cauza asta.
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Oh no... deci iti iei computer peste un an?
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@mbc pai data trecuta nu am gasit ceva care sa ma convinga... acum ca sunt fortat sa fac upgrade din cauza ca actualul PC da semne de duca, sunt sanse totusi sa ma incadrez anul asta
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Daca nu te joci la 144 Hz, eu as lua AMD R7 1700. Placa de baza, RAM-ii si alea alea sunt mai putin importante, dar as lua ceva placa B350 si RAM 2666.
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Cred ca diferenta de bani intre R5 si R7 o pot folosi la altceva. Mi se pare prea overkill 8c/16t pentru ce am eu nevoie.

Partea oarecum negativa (desi acum sunt focusat pe development pe partea de server) e ca android emulator nu ruleaza pe procesoarele AMD. Ma rog, nu ruleaza "fin"... alea doar pe intel si HAXM merg cum trebuie.
La AMD sunt misto collerele stock si gasesc pe format mITX.

Ce parere aveti de Metis Plus sau de Sharkoon CA-M sau CA-I ? Oare or fi ok la racire? Mi-ar fi placut mult http://www.lazer3d.com/product/lz7/ dar e pretul prea mare.
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un i5 8th gen ar trebui sa-ti ajunga, plus ceva mobo cu chipset h daca nu faci overclock.
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Eu cred ca diferenta de la altceva o poti folosi pentru a sari de la R5 la R7

Daca nu ruleaza fin pe AMD si pentru asta cumperi computerul, nu e nici o alegere. Ia ce te ajuta pe tine mai mult. Degeaba ai HT cu AMD daca nu-ti merge cum trebuie ceva. Bine, eu as lua i7 nu i5, dar na... tu stii.
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Daca nu faci transcoding si editari de tot felul un i5 8th gen ar trebui sa-ti fie suficient. i7 Acum e un fel de mainstream ceva mai future proof.
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Si eu vreau sa schimb 2600k-ul
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bai ryzen avea handicap under linux parca, nu? e rezolvata ?
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Mi-ar fi placut Deskmini GTX insa nu se gaseste pe la noi (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-059-_-Product)

Cred ca dilema cea mai mare e carcasa... vreau sa fie si mica si silent. Nu as vrea sa porneasca ca Air Force One cand misc mouse-ul.
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Daca-ti place Fractal Design Core 500, e o varianta excelenta pentru ca poti instala AIO pana la 280 in tavan.
Mie imi tine un 7700k si un 1060 GamingX f.silent.
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Cred ca o sa merg pe Metis Plus in cele din urma si daca merg pe AMD am si cooler decent si spatiu in carcasa. La Sharkoon vad ca sursa sta paralela cu placa de baza si nu stiu cat aer are coolerul.

O alta varianta la care m-am mai gandit e sa renunt la GPu si atunci sa iau o solutie Tiny de la Lenovo sau Dell insa vad ca variantele gasite pe la noi sunt de obicei cu skylake si au configuratii modeste.
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Dupa ce am mai citit review-uri la Gigabyte pe AM4 am renuntat la ea. Cred ca o sa merg pe ASROCK AB350 Gaming ITX/AC + R5 1600. Ce placa de baza recomandati?
Coolerul stock AMD e laudat... e ok oare intr-o carcasa mica?
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