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Old 06-02-2022, 18:12   #8801
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Ce zici tu e valabil doar daca fol pc-ul la office&browsing man.
Dar lumea foloseste pc si la alte chestii, cu softuri adevarate. Iar la ei se simte si unspor de 10%. De 20 nici nu mai zic.
Eu il folosesc pentru programare si nu simt diferente asa mici. Ce zici tu cu 10% e in marja de eroare aproape...
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Old 06-02-2022, 21:17   #8802
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Inseamna ca nu stie compilatorul sa scaleze cu acei 10%.
Ca doar nu la criesrea codului te referi. Sper.
10% din 10 ore e fix sala sau o ora in pllus cu familia/prietenii/tine.
Iar la 10 zile inseamna o zi de stat acasa in domenii ca randare video, prelucrare foto, 3d. Sau un proiect in plus pe luna, deci bani.
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Old 07-02-2022, 08:56   #8803
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Inseamna ca nu stie compilatorul sa scaleze cu acei 10%.
Ca doar nu la criesrea codului te referi. Sper.
10% din 10 ore e fix sala sau o ora in pllus cu familia/prietenii/tine.
Iar la 10 zile inseamna o zi de stat acasa in domenii ca randare video, prelucrare foto, 3d. Sau un proiect in plus pe luna, deci bani.
Scaleaza ... intre 5700g-ul meu si un Alder Lake 12700k e diferenta de la 7 la 6 secunde la rularea testelor, ca acolo e cronometrata treaba. Dar majoritatea timpului o petreci scriind cod, nu compiland sau ruland teste. Castigul e mic ... sa zicem de 1 minut pe zi maxim.

Nu mai zic ca diferenta de bani intre cele doua sisteme costa si ea timp ... hai sa zicem 1/10 dintr-o luna. Deci iesi pe pierdere grav daca faci upgradeuri constant

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Old 07-02-2022, 12:09   #8804
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Probabil in cazul tau nu procesorul este bottleneckul. Dar sunt multe alte workloaduri in care este. Iar in acele cazuri 20% este enorm.
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Old 07-02-2022, 17:22   #8805
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Scaleaza ... intre 5700g-ul meu si un Alder Lake 12700k e diferenta de la 7 la 6 secunde la rularea testelor, ca acolo e cronometrata treaba. Dar majoritatea timpului o petreci scriind cod, nu compiland sau ruland teste. Castigul e mic ... sa zicem de 1 minut pe zi maxim.

Nu mai zic ca diferenta de bani intre cele doua sisteme costa si ea timp ... hai sa zicem 1/10 dintr-o luna. Deci iesi pe pierdere grav daca faci upgradeuri constant
Deci pentru tine nu conteaza. Pentru unii conteaza enorm acei 10% => nu mia generaliza, mkey?
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Old 07-02-2022, 18:10   #8806
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Proasta comparatie, compara un procesor cu 8 nuclee versus unul cu 8 + 4 nuclee de eficienta, probabil compilatorul nu are habar de asa ceva. In plus 1 secunda din 7 inseamna cat, 14%? In cazul tau 5700G este arhi-suficient, probabil te descurcai bine mersi cu un ryzen 3300X de exemplu.

Obiectiv vorbind, 25% este enorm si nu imi aduc aminte sincer cand am vazut asta ultima oara. IPC nu adaugare de core sau marire de frecventa. Strict
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Old 07-02-2022, 20:19   #8807
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E vorba de timpul de incarcare pe ssd a datelor + rularea propriu zisa a testelor automate. Fara incarcare a datelor probabil ar fi 3 secunde si ceva vs 4 si ceva ... o diferenta destul de mare procentual. Faptul ca sunt rulate in paralel pe 16 thread-uri (20 in cazul alder lake) face ca timpul sa fie asa mic. Pe un 3300x cred ca era pe la 14 secunde si incepea sa se simta diferenta.

25% IPC e enorm ca realizare tehnica ... dar ca si performanta aduce la fel de mult ca un bump de 25% de frecventa. Oricum cand am zis ca Zen4 o sa aduca 25% performanta in plus, m-am referit per total, IPC + frecventa, nu cred ca o sa sara IPC-ul de unul singur atat de mult.

PS: softul imparte numarul de teste automate proportional la 16 respectiv 20, deci stie si de thread-urile respective, si asteapta sa termine ultimul proces ca sa stabileasca timpul total, la impartire nu este perfect...
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Au fost mai multe prezentări importante la ISSCC, toate procesoarele (și nu numai) din următorii 5-10 ani vor avea ceva "stacked", dacă nu tot cipul
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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Ships Out, Could be Available by March-end
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AMD EPYC Milan-X, Threadripper PRO 5000 and Ryzen 7 5800X3D could all launch in March
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AMD Said to be Releasing no Less Than Four New Ryzen 5000-Series Chips in March
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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Priced at $450, Mid-April Launch Pricing of Other New Chips Surface

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Threadripper Pro 5000 again exclusive to Lenovo.
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