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Old 09-04-2013, 21:28   #201
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Atata e acum: 23x $.
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Old 09-04-2013, 21:42   #202
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Tot creste, unii sunt atat de optimisti ca au threshold setat la 1000$.
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Old 09-04-2013, 21:44   #203
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Old 09-04-2013, 21:54   #204
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Se stia de mult ce pot face AMD-urile.De ce credeti ca sunt cautate toate placile 5850,5870,6950,6970,79xx ? Pentru minning si decodari telefoane Ar fi interesanta o placa exclusiv pentru minning,fara partea de grafica 3D,rop&etc,doar unitati de direct compute si memorie ram
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BTC ca BTC, dar LTC e 5.5 USD acum
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Old 09-04-2013, 22:25   #206
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Ar fi interesanta o placa exclusiv pentru minning,fara partea de grafica 3D,rop&etc,doar unitati de direct compute si memorie ram
Adica un ASIC ?
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Old 09-04-2013, 22:29   #207
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Old 09-04-2013, 22:45   #208
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ASIC-urile o sa inceapa sa vina pe piata la sfarsitul lunii, moment in care o belim. Grav. Si eu incep sa regret decizia de acum. Sper doar sa-mi scot banutii de pe placa si atat.

O sa creasca dificultatea de ~100x pt BTC. Asa ca daca n-aveti ASIC mai bine folositi 7990-urile pentru solitaire ca iesiti mai castigati.

Un ASIC de 300 dolari (cu tot cu shipping, si daca punem si taxa vamala, 400USD, adica cat un 7970 SH) scoate 5GH/s. Adica 5000MH/s vs 700MH/s cat scoate un 7970. Asta inseamna de 7.5 ori mai multa performanta in acelasi cost, si la un consum de cativa W, versus ~300-400W cat suge un sistem cu un singur 7970). Chiar daca v-ati comandat ASIC recent, sunt sanse mari sa-l primiti la ~2 luni dupa ce incep sa soseasca primele bucati, moment in care piata va fi deja saturata de forta de calcul. Hence, dificultate crescuta de shpe miliarde de ori.

Aparent, pt LTC nu se pot folosi ASIC-urile, deci ar trebui sa creasca valoarea monedei, in timp ce BTC o sa devina mai "mainstream". Sau cel putin o sa devina specializata pentru cei cu ASIC-uri, pentru ca pentru restul va fi sinucidere curata. Asta o spune unul fara studii financiare, de bursa, si care nici macar nu a inceput sa mineze(maine o fac ). As vrea o parere de la cei cu mai multa experienta, sunt curios cam cum vad ei viitorul diferitelor monede.


Let's hope LTC is the new BTC, and they don't go to hell equaly.

L.E. BTW, chiar daca ASIC-urile nu vor influenta LTC direct, o vor face indirect. Toti cei cu GPU-uri vor veni sa mineze LTC-uri, deci va creste si aici dificultatea de zeci de ori. Oh, holy shitfuck.

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Old 10-04-2013, 00:03   #209
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Păi cât timp crezi că va trebui să apară un program care să mineze după LTC-uri folosind un ASIC?
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Old 10-04-2013, 00:07   #210
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Read this, we're safe for now.

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Except if you want a speed boost there is no way to efficiently parallel compute the Scrypt algorithm without throwing loads of money at it to the point it becomes prohibitively expensive. This is proven mathematically in the Scrypt paper - http://www.tarsnap.com/scrypt/scrypt.pdf (Litecoin uses Scrypt for this reason)

//People will bring out ASICs and FGPAs but unless there is a computer science breakthrough the performance increase won't be dramatic on a per dollar basis. Simply not possible.

//So only the rich can afford it? That sure sounds like a better plan than making it affordable and available to the masses.

//No you misunderstand and didn't read the link. If someone spends 10k on a Scrypt Asic it won't give them a 100 times performance boost over someone rigging together 10k's worth of top graphics cards.

Some performance boost will be gained but the algorithm was specifically designed so a government entity for example couldn't crack a Scrypt hashed password by simply throwing more money at the hardware because it will become exponentially more expensive. Again, read the paper it's all in there.
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Old 10-04-2013, 07:48   #211
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Problema este că după ce ASICurile vor beli BTC mining-ul - ceea ce eu mă îndoiesc, sunt în număr limitat VS numărul imens de GPUuri ATi care minează - toate acele GPUuri ATi se vor muta pe LTCuri - deja sunt mai eficiente ca orice alt hardware.

N-am rulat cifrele, dar are cineva idee câte ASICuri vor fi în circulație pe finele lunii?

Momentan, cu creșterea BTC, este foarte riscant să te apuci să faci speculă (aka cumpărat + vândut BTCuri), dar minatul este foarte profitabil. Momentan.

De asemenea, ASICurile mi se par la fel de riscante ca investiție ca și specula. Dincolo de un anumit punct, vor plafona și ele.

Totul în contextul în care o placă video o poți folosi și la altceva, nu doar cryptocoin mining Practic un 7970 își păstrează valoarea cel puțin până când iese seria 8xxx, deci este o investiție oarecum safe.

LE: BTC a început să scadă. Să vedem unde se oprește
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Old 10-04-2013, 08:00   #212
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in fiecare zi fluctueaza putin, pe parcursul zilei
ieri de la 182e coborase la 176e
deocamdata azi a scazut 5e fata de pretul de inchidere de ieri
ieri totusi a crescut cu 35e fata de alaltaieri


l.e. acum e 189.5e

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Old 10-04-2013, 20:11   #213
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Uite cum se desumfla

$190/BTC si o tine tot in jos
LTC a scazut si el cu $1 intr-o ora, dar nu e nemaintalnit
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Doamne ajuta sa tina LTC =))
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Old 10-04-2013, 20:37   #215
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Pana termin eu de pregatit platforma in seara asta se duc dracului de tot. )

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holy fuck
am dormit 2h si s-a dus dracu'
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Eu sunt curios cati dintre voi ati scos bani din asta pana acum.
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eu sigur voi scoate bani
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Eu intrebam daca a scos cineva pana acum, din cate am inteles toata tarasenia e de prin 2009.
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deci stii ca e de prin 2009 si te gandesti ca nimeni n-a scos vreun ban pana acum dar lumea continua sa mineze. gg
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