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Old 24-06-2015, 21:59   #6241
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Orice VRM daca are sub 100 de grade trebuie sa intri la banuieli despre cum s-a masurat si cu ce, inca nu s-a inventat unul mai rece pentru placile video, evident ma refer la cele high end. Alea 55-58 de garde sunt specifice GPU-ului.

Felicitari matose si Monstru, inca nu am gasit un review mai bun ca al vostru.
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Multumesc Dragos, amandoi am pus osu' la treaba, din timp, planificat, ca sa iasa ceva cu adevarat fain.
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Old 24-06-2015, 22:01   #6243
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Nu frige nimic la placa asta, alea 104 grade C sunt imposibile in conditii normale de functionare
Exact confirmarea voastra asteptam.Am incredere mai multa in matose decat 1milion de frantuzi ce fac review-uri pe podium de moda

Review-ul de aici si cel al nemtilor mi se par reusite,in rest am vazut niste aberatii de ma doare mintea:
http://www.computerbase.de/2015-06/a...nity-3840-2160

Si cu memoria chiar le-a iesit celor de la amd(stai sa intre nitel nvidia pe fir):
http://www.computerbase.de/2015-06/a...ury-x-test/11/

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Old 24-06-2015, 22:10   #6244
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AMD Radeon R9 Fury X 4 GB Review - Hothardware

AMD Radeon R9 Fury X 4 GB Review - Tweaktown

AMD Radeon R9 Fury X 4 GB Review - TPU

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Old 24-06-2015, 23:11   #6245
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Astia zic ca au facut si 100mhz oc la memorii,monstru se poate?Amd zicea ca a blocat oc pt ca sunt sensibile.


http://us.hardware.info/reviews/6158...ocking-results
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Old 24-06-2015, 23:54   #6246
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@one111: Uita-te mai bine la ce zic francezii. Temperatura aia de 104C e atinsa atunci cand placa NU are backplate. Destul de clar ca atunci cand ai backplate montat pe ea[default] nu iti va ajunge la acele temperaturi

Si cei de la HardwareCanucks au o serie de imagini cu IR:
AMD R9 Fury X Review; Fiji Arrives[Thermal Imaging]
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Old 25-06-2015, 00:10   #6247
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Uimitor dar EK sunt deja pe faza:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1561907/e...er-water-block
Hmm ...CLC versus full water-cooling... Good for Fury Pro anyway

PS1: spaniolii par sa fi avut mai mult noroc cu overclockingul (au atins 1200 MHz!?) :
https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url

PS2: .... iar de ajustarea preturilor cred ca o sa aiba grija retailerii... Ma astept sa ceara ceva mai mult pe 980Ti-uri: Problem solved!
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@one111: Uita-te mai bine la ce zic francezii. Temperatura aia de 104C e atinsa atunci cand placa NU are backplate. Destul de clar ca atunci cand ai backplate montat pe ea[default] nu iti va ajunge la acele temperaturi

Si cei de la HardwareCanucks au o serie de imagini cu IR:
AMD R9 Fury X Review; Fiji Arrives[Thermal Imaging]

...Reprezentatul EK pe Ovck.net:
"The VRMs are built in so called flip-chip all-metallic design, hence the drain is on the top of the MOS. This means it dumps heat directly to the heatsink and not the the circuit board through BGA like DrMOS on GTX 980 Ti / TITAN X.

The internal temperature of such packaging (non-flip chip, drain on bottom and BGA serving as heatsink) is much higher than the surface temperature than flip-chip. If the surface temperature is about 50°C the internal is closer to 80°C while with flip chip the internal is very close to external. Both designs have it's perks and drawbacks. For instance, it's way easier to cool flip-chip design with direct cooling. "
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Default dar ei nu ca Batman- Batman

Scuze de offtopic dar merita (poza zilei!)
Lumea se da de ceasul mortii pentru cateva procente diferenta in sus sau in jos si in timpul asta...
Ar fi de ras daca n-ar fi de plans...
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Old 25-06-2015, 00:57   #6250
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Concluzionand,asta mi se pare comentariul zilei: "Someday AMD will realize that silicon R&D is pointless without top-notch drivers.

Today is not that day."
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Lumea se da de ceasul mortii pentru cateva procente diferenta in sus sau in jos si in timpul asta...
Ar fi de ras daca n-ar fi de plans...
Loooool ma =)))))
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Old 25-06-2015, 01:22   #6252
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Monstru ati incercat oc la memorii,ca s-ar putea sa mearga?Am vazut in firestrike scor de la 14098 la aproape 17k cu 100mhz in plus la hbm.
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Old 25-06-2015, 01:56   #6253
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spaniolii par sa fi avut mai mult noroc cu overclockingul (au atins 1200 MHz!?)
Nu prea stau bine cu matematica Au un overclock de 10%, deci fix 1155MHz... nu stiu cum au ajuns la 1200MHz in grafice
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Backplate-ul nu are nici o treaba cu racirea VRM-ului, chip-urile sunt pe partea cealalta a PCB-ului, aparatul ala care face pozele termice masoara temperatura la suprafata, de asta este bine sa scoti backplate-ul, iar pe fata VRM-ul este racit de radiatorul de la water block. In concluzie daca masori temperatura VRM-ului pe spatele PCB-ului este o mare tampenie. Iar un VRM are temperatura in medie intre 100-110 grade, de la 115 grade in sus trebuie sa-ti faci probleme ca nu va rezista in timp.

Batman Arkham Knight a aparut in varianta initiala cu caps lock la 30 FPS-uri (portarea a fost de vina), de aceea sunt rezultatele alea asa, intre timp s-a rezolvat problema, dar tot are probleme cu driverele atat pentru placile AMD cat si Nvidia.

LE: uite ca am gasit niste imagini de pe fata PCB-ului, alea sunt temperaturi normale in conditiile date de masurare, iar acele 57 de grade sunt de fapt specifice water block-ului, temperatura GPU-ului este mai mare un pic, de asemenea cele 100 grade sunt specifice radiatorului de pe VRM, similar VRM-ul are mai mult un pic, transferul termic nu se poate realiza in proportie de 100% niciodata.
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Old 25-06-2015, 08:28   #6256
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Fury (simplu) când vine? Nano am înțeles că doar prin toamnă...
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Backplate-ul nu are nici o treaba cu racirea VRM-ului, chip-urile sunt pe partea cealalta a PCB-ului, aparatul ala care face pozele termice masoara temperatura la suprafata, de asta este bine sa scoti backplate-ul, iar pe fata VRM-ul este racit de radiatorul de la water block. In concluzie daca masori temperatura VRM-ului pe spatele PCB-ului este o mare tampenie. Iar un VRM are temperatura in medie intre 100-110 grade, de la 115 grade in sus trebuie sa-ti faci probleme ca nu va rezista in timp.

Batman Arkham Knight a aparut in varianta initiala cu caps lock la 30 FPS-uri (portarea a fost de vina), de aceea sunt rezultatele alea asa, intre timp s-a rezolvat problema, dar tot are probleme cu driverele atat pentru placile AMD cat si Nvidia.

LE: uite ca am gasit niste imagini de pe fata PCB-ului, alea sunt temperaturi normale in conditiile date de masurare, iar acele 57 de grade sunt de fapt specifice water block-ului, temperatura GPU-ului este mai mare un pic, de asemenea cele 100 grade sunt specifice radiatorului de pe VRM, similar VRM-ul are mai mult un pic, transferul termic nu se poate realiza in proportie de 100% niciodata.
Mersi pentru informatii Joker, astea sunt vesti bune...

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Default DX12 draw calls tests/ 4Gb RAM- limit tests

Draw calls tests
We tested both the AMD Radeon R9 Fury X and the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti under the current insider Preview-Build 10130 of Windows 10 and the latest available drivers from AMD and NVIDIA. When setting we chose the Futuremark 3DMark in Driver overhead test a resolution of 3,840 x 2,160 pixels.

Draw calls are essential commands within a rendering process, but which provide a high overhead on the processor that no optimal utilization of the graphics card can be guaranteed.

The results confirm the findings old, which NVIDIA is working even better under DirectX 11 and can compute about 30 percent more calls Draw. This applies to both single-threaded and multi-threaded test. Under DirectX 12 AMD seems currently better exploit the possibilities. Here AMD is good with 33 percent against NVIDIA. But it is still unclear for DirectX 12, the impact this has on the ultimate gaming performance. Here we'll just have to wait until first practical applications on Windows 10 and DirectX 12 are available.

http://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php....html?start=22

Memory tests:
* In Assassin's Creed: Unity, we quickly reach the magic number for the 4 GB of graphics memory. However, we can see no performance hit and also make improvements in the driver that the utilization decreases rapidly below their limit. The above result we were able to reproduce several times
** GTA 5 usually goes pretty frugal with the available memory. Even in 3840 x 2160 pixels at maximum graphics settings we could not utilize the memory of the Radeon R9 Fury X. This is also true for a GeForce GTX 980 Ti and underscores AMD's statement that modern games do not necessarily require more than 4GB of memory.
***Again we see a different picture in Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor. We have used graphic settings for which the developers actually require 6 GB of graphics memory. Even the memory of the Radeon R9 Fury X fills up very fast, but does not reach the maximum.

The above analysis, however, can by no means be understood as a profound knowledge, for if and how long 4 GB of graphics memory are now rich, simply can not be assessed. AMD has developed for example lossless delta color correction, graphics memory which saves. However, this technology is not new. NVIDIA however, speaks concretely about his memory compression that is used in "Maxwell".

AMD officially refers once again to make effective use of the available memory. Here, the game developers in duty are not to be wasteful to deal with the memory. Therefore, one should also always with the developers talking. The higher memory bandwidth as well as the pure shader performance could compensate for the lower memory configuration largely. Facing the future AMD refers to the effective APIs like DirectX 12 and volcano. Here the memory usage could be even greater control.

http://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php....html?start=20
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http://www.golem.de/news/radeon-r9-f...-114780-6.html

AMD sells the Radeon R9 Fury X for now only in the reference design with pre-assembled complete water cooling. The US price is 650 US dollars without taxes like the GeForce GTX 980 Ti is interesting is it in Germany. Here AMD 700 euros required in trade, however, Nvidia 750 Euro. Models with different cooling (called Custom Designs) are even more expensive.
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Daca vor sa vanda, trebuie sa scada pretul la furie.
Sau sa umble la driveri pentru a egala macar 980ti.
Chiar daca 980ti ii va da peste bot in OC, macar stock sa fie mai ieftina sau, de ce nu, sa o intreaca usor daca nu scad la pret.
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