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Old 28-05-2020, 23:40   #921
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Dar b-die-urile alea e pacat sa nu le duci la un 3600Mhz-3800Mhz daca poate si 3700x-ul cu cl16 sau poate mai mic: DRAM Calculator for Ryzen

Daca ai chef si timp.
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Old 29-05-2020, 13:09   #922
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In idle nu coboara sunt 3.523
Te duci la power plan > processor power > minimum state si pui pe 5% > salvezi. Si acum ar trebui sa se duca mai jos procul in idle.
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Old 31-05-2020, 10:11   #923
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Ce parere aveti despre cifrele astea pentru un 3700x? in bios (MSI B450 carbon ac) sunt 1000 optiuni de voltaje si auto OC. E safe sa-l las asa?

In cinebench a scos cu 200 puncte mai putin decat aici: https://www.cgdirector.com/cinebench...dated-results/
Cu ryzen ai 3 variante - Auto (care e default - o sa aiba un OC conservator - variant safe), PBO - mai agresiv cu OC-ul in functie de cooling si placa de baza) sau Manual daca te pricepi - poti sa mai scoti un pic de Mhz in plus.

Deci același proc poate avea scoruri diferite in funcție de setari si de ce cooling ai.

Ce frec avea in CB load?
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Old 31-05-2020, 10:57   #924
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Default Edc = 1, pbo turbo boost

Sau mai poti folosi si EDC = 1, PBO TURBO BOOST

Eu am carstigat 100 puncte in C20 multicore cu setarile:

PPT [150]
TDC [100]
EDC 10
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iar in single core am acum boost pana la 4475 Mhz (din teoretic maxim 4400Mhz) pe un 3700X.

Trebuie sa fac un test si cu ventilatoarele date la maxim.
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Old 31-05-2020, 22:06   #925
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Sau mai poti folosi si EDC = 1, PBO TURBO BOOST

Eu am carstigat 100 puncte in C20 multicore cu setarile:

PPT [150]
TDC [100]
EDC 10
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iar in single core am acum boost pana la 4475 Mhz (din teoretic maxim 4400Mhz) pe un 3700X.

Trebuie sa fac un test si cu ventilatoarele date la maxim.
subscriu , si eu cu 3800x cu bios f11 pe x570 master cu edc 10 , tdc 0, ppt 0, c states disabled, cool and quiet disabled ( cpu coboara pana la 2400 mhz minim cu aceste setari lucru care cu ele enabled nu il face, pe langa asta toate coreurile urca pana in 4564 mhz frecventa fata de doar 2 , 3 cu ele enabled), typical idle current, ajunge cpu pana la 4664 mhz in hwinfo idle, si frecvent in 3dmark, geekbench la 4614mhz boost, 4238 mhz minim in cinebench r20 desi cpu trece de 80 de grade in load in cinebench si sta undeva la 87 in aida64 stability test

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Old 31-05-2020, 23:25   #926
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La mine e ceva ce mai trebuie lucrat pentru ca cu:

PPT [150]
TDC [100]
EDC 8 sau 10 sau 12
(c-states enabled)

al meu 3700x nu urca mai mult de 4200 all core si 4475 Mhz single core la performance.
La effective speed all core sunt sub 4200 Mhz undeva pe la 4133-4150 Mhz la o temperatura maxima de 76 grade C, cu single core undeva la 4250-4350 Mhz.

Am 3 rad-uri de 360 cu ventilatoare Corsair ML Pro care duse in 2000rpm tin procesorul la doar 75-76 grade C.
Stiu ca trebuie sub 70 grade C sa urce in frecventa.
PPT si TDC nu sar de 70% in load. De pus pe 0 cele 2 valori nu imi permite placa MSI X370 Pro Carbon doar AUTO sau de la 1 in sus.
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Old 01-06-2020, 12:02   #927
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Al meu merge 4400mhz allcore in cinebench cu 1.28V(dupa vdroop).Desi este cumparat anul trecut prin decembrie este din seria aceasta:

https://www.overclock.net/forum/10-a...arch-20-a.html


La 4000 allcore cere voltaj 1.069V(prime95 stabil) si 4200 -1.187V(prime avx).
Fara prime95 cu avx cere un pic mai putin.
Eu il tin stoc,fara boost ca am doar gtx 1660ti si nu-i vad rostul.

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Old 01-06-2020, 14:16   #928
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Ryzen suporta memorii ECC? Din ce-am gasit pe net, cica de suportat le suporta, dar ECC-ul nu functioneaza. Adica merge ca RAM normal.

Mi s-a intamplat, rar ce-i drept, ca la salvarea unei imagini, sa se corupa. Ori export din Lightroom, ori PSD/Tif din Photoshop. Poate odata la cateva luni (am volum de mii de imagini in timpul ala, deci statistic rata de "failure" e mica). Nu stiu 100% sigur ca e de la RAM (stabil in orice inclusiv MemTest la setarile de acum), dar daca tot o sa fac upgrade vreau sa vad daca merge ECC si daca da, sa vad cum fac sa iau asa ceva.
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Ryzen suporta memorii ECC? Din ce-am gasit pe net, cica de suportat le suporta, dar ECC-ul nu functioneaza. Adica merge ca RAM normal.

Mi s-a intamplat, rar ce-i drept, ca la salvarea unei imagini, sa se corupa. Ori export din Lightroom, ori PSD/Tif din Photoshop. Poate odata la cateva luni (am volum de mii de imagini in timpul ala, deci statistic rata de "failure" e mica). Nu stiu 100% sigur ca e de la RAM (stabil in orice inclusiv MemTest la setarile de acum), dar daca tot o sa fac upgrade vreau sa vad daca merge ECC si daca da, sa vad cum fac sa iau asa ceva.
din ce stiu eu iti trebuie si mb care sa suporte memorii ecc
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Old 01-06-2020, 18:22   #930
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A incercat cineva 3700+ CL14 pe 3970x? Nu sunt inca sigur daca merita sa schimb 3200 CL14(16GTZRX) cu un kit 3800MHz CL14(F4-3800C14Q-32GTZN).
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Old 01-06-2020, 23:35   #931
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Ryzen suporta memorii ECC? Din ce-am gasit pe net, cica de suportat le suporta, dar ECC-ul nu functioneaza. Adica merge ca RAM normal.
La mine asa apare pe Asrock. Nu sunt sigur daca chiar e on sau nu. N-am avut pana acum probleme.

Code:
[email protected]:~# dmidecode --type memory
# dmidecode 3.2
Getting SMBIOS data from sysfs.
SMBIOS 3.0.0 present.

Handle 0x000C, DMI type 16, 23 bytes
Physical Memory Array
        Location: System Board Or Motherboard
        Use: System Memory
        Error Correction Type: Multi-bit ECC
        Maximum Capacity: 256 GB
        Error Information Handle: 0x000B
        Number Of Devices: 4

Handle 0x0013, DMI type 17, 40 bytes
Memory Device
        Array Handle: 0x000C
        Error Information Handle: 0x0012
        Total Width: 128 bits
        Data Width: 64 bits
        Size: 16384 MB
        Form Factor: DIMM
        Set: None
        Locator: DIMM 0
        Bank Locator: P0 CHANNEL A
        Type: DDR4
        Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered)
        Speed: 2400 MT/s
        Manufacturer: Micron Technology
        Serial Number: 1FB28425
        Asset Tag: Not Specified
        Part Number: 18ASF2G72AZ-2G3B1   
        Rank: 2
        Configured Memory Speed: 1200 MT/s
        Minimum Voltage: 1.2 V
        Maximum Voltage: 1.2 V
        Configured Voltage: 1.2 V

Handle 0x0016, DMI type 17, 40 bytes
Memory Device
        Array Handle: 0x000C
        Error Information Handle: 0x0015
        Total Width: 128 bits
        Data Width: 64 bits
        Size: 16384 MB
        Form Factor: DIMM
        Set: None
        Locator: DIMM 1
        Bank Locator: P0 CHANNEL A
        Type: DDR4
        Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered)
        Speed: 2400 MT/s
        Manufacturer: Micron Technology
        Serial Number: 1FAE1F48
        Asset Tag: Not Specified
        Part Number: 18ASF2G72AZ-2G3B1   
        Rank: 2
        Configured Memory Speed: 1200 MT/s
        Minimum Voltage: 1.2 V
        Maximum Voltage: 1.2 V
        Configured Voltage: 1.2 V

Handle 0x0019, DMI type 17, 40 bytes
Memory Device
        Array Handle: 0x000C
        Error Information Handle: 0x0018
        Total Width: 128 bits
        Data Width: 64 bits
        Size: 16384 MB
        Form Factor: DIMM
        Set: None
        Locator: DIMM 0
        Bank Locator: P0 CHANNEL B
        Type: DDR4
        Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered)
        Speed: 2400 MT/s
        Manufacturer: Micron Technology
        Serial Number: 1FB2837D
        Asset Tag: Not Specified
        Part Number: 18ASF2G72AZ-2G3B1   
        Rank: 2
        Configured Memory Speed: 1200 MT/s
        Minimum Voltage: 1.2 V
        Maximum Voltage: 1.2 V
        Configured Voltage: 1.2 V

Handle 0x001C, DMI type 17, 40 bytes
Memory Device
        Array Handle: 0x000C
        Error Information Handle: 0x001B
        Total Width: 128 bits
        Data Width: 64 bits
        Size: 16384 MB
        Form Factor: DIMM
        Set: None
        Locator: DIMM 1
        Bank Locator: P0 CHANNEL B
        Type: DDR4
        Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered)
        Speed: 2400 MT/s
        Manufacturer: Micron Technology
        Serial Number: 1FAE241F
        Asset Tag: Not Specified
        Part Number: 18ASF2G72AZ-2G3B1   
        Rank: 2
        Configured Memory Speed: 1200 MT/s
        Minimum Voltage: 1.2 V
        Maximum Voltage: 1.2 V
        Configured Voltage: 1.2 V
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Old 02-06-2020, 18:24   #933
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Multumiri calduroase tuturor

Am incercat sa urc memoriile mai sus dupa Ryzen memory calculator, dar n-a bootat si le-am lasat asa.

Sunt f. multe optiuni si combinatii in bios de overclock, cred ca asta e cea mai turbata.
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La mine asa apare pe Asrock. Nu sunt sigur daca chiar e on sau nu. N-am avut pana acum probleme.
Mersi! 256GB Max, wtf?
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@Pirat: cred ca ecc e activ, vad ca raporteaza:
Error Information Handle: 0x0015
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Old 04-06-2020, 00:04   #936
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am descarcat driver-ul de chipset b450 de pe amd, dar marimea e ridicola comparativ cu a producatorului

la msi chipset-ul are 370 mb , iar pe amd.com are 50 mb pt versiunea

ma rog, nu include radeon. care din ele trebuie instalata, daca nu folosesc grafica integrata?

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/supp...AX#down-driver

https://www.amd.com/en/support/chips...ocket-am4/b450
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încearcă întâi versiunea driverului de la producătorul plăcii de bază. E certificat că funcționează fără probleme. Cel puțin așa ar trebui.
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am descarcat driver-ul de chipset b450 de pe amd, dar marimea e ridicola comparativ cu a producatorului

la msi chipset-ul are 370 mb , iar pe amd.com are 50 mb pt versiunea

ma rog, nu include radeon. care din ele trebuie instalata, daca nu folosesc grafica integrata?

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/supp...AX#down-driver

https://www.amd.com/en/support/chips...ocket-am4/b450
MSI mi se pare ca au facut un rahat cu driverele AMD care contin si driverul pentru placi video AMD. Din cauza lor am avut luni de zile probleme cu chipsetul de retea pana am trecut la nvidia.

Instaleaza driverul de pe site-ul MSI, daca nu ai placa video AMD iti va instala doar driver de chipset.
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Din ce știu trebuie să vrea procul, placa de bază (hardware-ul) dar și BIOS-ul plăcii de bază. Știu că poți să pui ECC dar să meargă ca niște memorii normale dacă CPU sau mobo nu suportă.


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