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Old 15-05-2017, 10:15   #5621
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Pe am4 va fi scos un refresh la ryzen și atât?

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Old 15-05-2017, 10:34   #5622
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Pe am4 va fi scos un refresh la ryzen și atât?

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Pe AM4 vor fi scoase refresh-uri pana apare DDR5 (in 2020) din cate am inteles...
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Old 15-05-2017, 14:02   #5623
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Platforma AM4 are o viata limitata, nu o sa fie mereu nemuritoare. AMD-ul stiu ca au conceput-o pana in 2020 - 2021 maxim, dupa aia o sa aparat alta platforma, cu DDR5 si alte alea (cine stie ce alte nebunii). Probabil ca doar Ryzen+ o sa mai apara pe AM4 si cam atat. Si mi se pare normal asa ceva, Intel schimba platforma foarte des, de ce n-ar face-o si AMD-ul. Treaba merge inainte, nu sta pe loc nimic, nu ?
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Old 15-05-2017, 14:10   #5624
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Hai sa fim seriosi, de cate ori ati facut upgrade doar de procesor de la o generatie la alta, pastrand placa de baza. Diferentele sunt, de cele mai multe ori, foarte mici.
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Old 15-05-2017, 14:15   #5625
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Suntem cârcotași, AMD a reușit un procesor bun, are și el bubele lui, dar e competitiv. Acum căutăm nod în papură!
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Old 15-05-2017, 14:48   #5626
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Nu e vorba de asta, e vorba de platforma AM4 cat o sa dureze, vorbim de una si o dam in alta. Nimeni nu cauta nod in papura. Chiar daca AM4 e ok, nu mi se pare normal sa stagneze, mi se pare mult mai normal sa evolueze platforma AMD-ului.
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Old 15-05-2017, 15:10   #5627
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Aha, explică-mi atunci de ce Intel schimbă socket-urile mid-range odată la 2 ani? Ai impresia că pinout-ul de la LGA1155 e atât de diferit de LGA1151, de exemplu?!
Cât timp tot ce ține de cpu și memory controller este inclus în pastila procesorului nu văd de ce nu ar putea cei de la Intel să ofere backward compatibility pentru procesoare mai vechi pe platforme mai noi atâta timp cât I/O este inclus în southbridge...
Dacă vrei M.2 pe Ivy ești obligat să faci upgrade la CPU, placă de bază și memorie ram. Ție ți se pare ok? PCIexpress tot PCIexpress e, indiferent că vorbim de Sandy Bridge sau Kaby Lake

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Old 15-05-2017, 15:17   #5628
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E simplu, pentru ca pot... mai mult de atat n-am ce sa zic. Nu stau sa intru in polemici pe tema asta, nu iti convine nu cumperi sau mergi pe AMD. AMD sau Intel, Intel sau AMD. Ei conduc piata, asa ca fac ce vor ei. Noi nu putem face nimic in privinta asta, ori acceptam, ori nu.
Acum pune-mi tu mie ce putem sa facem ?
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Old 15-05-2017, 16:09   #5629
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AMD4 e platforma ptr procesoare mainstream si viitorul socket e pentru HEDT. Fizic nu poti pune 16 cores si quad channel pe AM4, Zen 2 va fi si pe AM4 si pe HEDT socket, evident in configuratii diferite de cores.
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AMD reveals Vega and Zen roadmaps

Zen2, Zen3... pana in 2020.
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Old 17-05-2017, 10:04   #5631
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AMD Ryzen Mobile Solutions to Launch at the End of 2017
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Suna bine, APU mult mai puternic. Btw..am observat ca AMD'ul ii atras de Italia
Malta, iar acum AMD will continue to refresh its EPYC lineup, following up with 7nm based “Rome” and “Milan” designs based on Zen2 and Zen3 cores over the next three years.
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Old 18-05-2017, 11:07   #5633
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AMD unveils ‘Threadripper’ 16C/32T and ‘EPYC’ 32C CPUs

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Threadripper si EPYC, au o inspiratie astia de la AMD )
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Hai sa fim seriosi, de cate ori ati facut upgrade doar de procesor de la o generatie la alta, pastrand placa de baza. Diferentele sunt, de cele mai multe ori, foarte mici.
Eu, de cel putin 2 ori lately.
Z97 cu Haswell si Broadwell, Z170 cu Skylake si Kabby
Bine, nu mai zic ca am invartit vreo 5 CPUs pe biata placa...i3, i5 si i7-uri...
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Dar cazul tau este exceptional, nu e o regula. Mai ales ca chipseturile mai noi au adus suport pentru lucruri noi, ca NVME,etc.
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Si eu zic ca este un caz exceptional. Cel putin eu nu am vazut computere cu Broadwell, decat in specificatii. Unii integratori au sarit de la Haswell direct la Skylake.
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Nvme aveam de pe z97 Impact, singura smecherie adusa de z170 a fost DDR4 si ceva Mhz in plus la CPU...in rest, timp si bani pierduti pe upgrades
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Si eu zic ca este un caz exceptional. Cel putin eu nu am vazut computere cu Broadwell, decat in specificatii. Unii integratori au sarit de la Haswell direct la Skylake.
Am sărit eu de la Z97 la Broadwell direct.
Happy user, cel puţin 3 ani nu schimb platforma.
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Tu ai Broadwell E, alta mancare de peste
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True. Blonde moment here.
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