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Old 08-10-2021, 19:53   #5781
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Statistic vorbind, cand au experimentat cu o arhitectura complet noua, treaba a fost asa (vb de procesoare moderne):

-Netburst - cam fail. Necesita frecvente uriase pentru a fi competitiv.
-Core si core2 - mega win. Au rupt norma.
-Nehalem - excelent, dar cu consum mare si temperaturi ridicate.
-Sandy Bridge - au rupt norma cu el. Culmea, ce a urmat dupa el a fost nu la fel de wow ca impact.

Deci, statistic vorbind, au fost mai multe reusite decat esuate..
Dar tot statistic vorbind, ultimele cam prea le-au iesit.... Mi-e sa nu fie un nou fail.
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Old 08-10-2021, 22:47   #5782
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Eu sunt biased, adică au nevoie de așa ceva pentru a concura pe segmentul de ultraportabile, laptopuri, etc. Dar pe desktop când vrei să îi dai în gură și să meargă blanao pe toate core-urile ce naigba faci cu jumătate din core-urile alea cu alea low power?
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Old 08-10-2021, 22:48   #5783
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Le dezactivezi ca sa mearga cele high-power mai sus in frecventa ) Apropo tot 250W consuma noua beshina 12900k

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Apropo tot 250W consuma noua beshina 12900k

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Cum e noua platforma z690 ? Uncore freq. e asa slaba pe ddr5 ? Noul xtu e de folos? Banuiesc ca gpu pe noul pci ex nu are cum sa scoata semnificativ mai bine. Daca tot amr 9 zile …
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Old 20-10-2021, 12:26   #5785
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Cred ca voi ramane cu 10900K & Z490 o perioada se pare :P Poate sar si eu in sfarsit o generatie =))
De ce nu upgrade doar la placa de baza ? 10900k & z590 sau chiar z690 daca va exista un model hobrid compatibil. De ultima varianta nu sunt sigur.
In ceea ce priveste compatibilitatea, daca nu o fac producatorii de jocuri, o pot face modderii pe nexusmods, ca posibilitate, nu ca certitudine.
Pro: usb 2x2, vrm probabil mai bun, suport mai nou. Con: trebuie studiat compatibilitatea m.2 pe 10th gen.
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Old 20-10-2021, 12:52   #5786
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Cum e noua platforma z690 ? Uncore freq. e asa slaba pe ddr5 ? Noul xtu e de folos? Banuiesc ca gpu pe noul pci ex nu are cum sa scoata semnificativ mai bine. Daca tot amr 9 zile …
Misto dar nu prea, ce pot sa va zic e ca poate fi ce trebuie pentru unii dar in mod sigur Greta o sa ia Intel in colimator =)))

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in mod sigur Greta o sa ia Intel in colimator =))
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Asteptam nda-ul cu 27 octombrie 16:30 sau mai devreme. Parca vad ca win11 devine mandatoriu pt gen.11. Cum low-endul nu va fi overclockabil (sub i5k)si nici disponibile anul curent, asa zisele builduri de buget sunt omorate in fasa /rant.
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review-urile apar la inceput de noiembrie. Win10 merge foarte ok, nu vad de ce ai pune 11. Pentru inceput vor fi lansate doar modelele K deci adio build buget. Doi la mana trebuie vazut cat costa si DDR5, oricum vor fi modele si cu DDR4 deci nu asta va fi problema principala.
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Retail Version of Intel Alder Lake Core i9-12900K Overclocked to 5.2 GHz on All Cores


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Intel Alder Lake Core i9-12900K that has been overclocked to 5.2 GHz on all P-cores, with the E-cores at stock clocks. It is said to be drawing a massive 330 Watts at these clock speeds
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Old 20-10-2021, 15:05   #5791
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Cu astea la 5.3 si cele efficiency la 4.1 eu am vazut si 400W =)) As i said, fuck Greta =))
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Win10 merge foarte ok, nu vad de ce ai pune 11.
Din câte stiu win10 nu e optimizat pt procesorele hibrid. Merge, dar probabil doar 11 le poate folosi adecvat power + lower. Aici Intel vrea să se asemene cu M-urile de la Apple. Când nu ai nevoie de putere, cele P intră in hibernare iar cele L stau "treze" si fac masina să ruleze mult mai fluid
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Probabil urmatorii 1-2 ani vor fi cu tot felul de probleme. (windows, bios-uri, memorii)

Eu personal vreau sa schimb actualul PC pentru ca incepe sa se simta ca are 4 ani jumatate, dar nu vreau sa fiu cobai.
Cel mai sigur cred ca merg pe un X570 sau Z590. (poate gasesc ceva de Black Fraier Dei)

La fel si cu Win 11, sa mai treaca 1 an.
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Intram in zona conservatorism si stabilitate vs mers inainte si adoptare de tehnologii noi.
Asa cum si cei care au luat Ryzen de la inceput au beneficiat de tehnologii noi si mers inainte, si cei care vor opta pt z690/ ulterior mai tarziu x699 vor avea beneficii ulterioare cumpararii produsului.
Win11 patchuit e mai rapid in multe bench-uri decat win 10, asa cum si win7 a ramas in urma, intrand in vigoare axioma so-ul potrivit pt benc-ul respectiv. Numarul serviciilor ce pot fi dezactivate este de ordinul zecilor.
Daca va fi realitate o placa video pci ex 5.0 cu 600w …iar i9 12900k e 11900k[400w]+15-25% … you do the math. Probabil producatorii de surse vor fi fortati sa standardizeze 2kw pe penurie de produse. Sau conector de 2 surse.
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Intel Core i9-12900K benchmarked with 5.2GHz overclock on all performance cores - Kitguru
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Se stie deja cam ce preturi vor avea Alder Lake si placile? Voiam sa fac upgrade de la Zen 2 la Zen 3, dar poate nu mai are rost.

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Se stie deja cam ce preturi vor avea Alder Lake si placile? Voiam sa fac upgrade de la Zen 2 la Zen 3, dar poate nu mai are rost.
https://hothardware.com/news/intel-1...s-amazon-debut

https://hothardware.com/news/intel-1...u-pricing-leak

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-expe...sive-than-ddr4

Ecuatie complexa, vrei ddr5, pci ex 5.0 samd. Asta pe fundal de stocuri mici pana in q1 cand vine replica AMD. Practic ori cumperi la lansare ori se duc stocurile. Daca ai 16gb 3200 si placa baza b550/x570 nu are nici un sens sa migrezi pe Intel.
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Merci pentru info. Deocamdata trec la Zen 3 si mai vedem.

Se pare ca Intel vrea sa inceapa sa produca chipuri pentru altii: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...e-elses-chips/
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?4.000 -4.100 lei in Romania .
Mai bine luati un 5900x si pierdeti 25% performanta.
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