lab501 forum  

Go Back   lab501 forum > Hardware > Carcase si surse
Connect with Facebook

Carcase si surse Nu le ignorati, sunt importante


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 18-09-2021, 11:54   #181
kretzu77
Ancient friend
 
kretzu77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: după colţ, vis a vis de clădirea aia din faţă
Posts: 22,586
Mentioned: 735 Post(s)

PC-ul meu



Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ktf View Post
Eu am luat UPS-uri de la un tip de pe olx si e foarte ok omul, cat si marfa lui. Iau de la el chestii de ani de zile.
Vin cu accu CSB? Ca m-ar interesa si pe mine unn SUA 1500.
__________________
Ne nastem pe rand si murim pe sarite.
Sa-ti dea iubita papucii spunand ca puteti ramane prieteni e ca si cum ti-ar muri cainele si maica-ta iti spune ca poti sa-l pastrezi.
kretzu77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-09-2021, 12:54   #182
dic1
Senior Member
 
dic1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 643
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)

PC-ul meu

Default

A sosit la easybox, incerc sa ii fac un minireview.
Modelul este UPS Eaton 5E 850VA/480W, cumparat de la eMag cu 330lei.

In cutie avem UPS-ul, 2 cabluri de UPS si o fituica(manual).
In cutie nu avem cablul USB de management si cablul de alimentare.

Am descarcat softul care este ceva minimalist, am pus poze. Nu consuma procesor.

UPS-ul este fabricat in Filipine acum un an si reincarcat in iunie 2021.
In interior am vazut condensatoare electrolitice certificate la 105grade produse de Nantong Jianghai Capacitor Co., Ltd., Nantong (China).
Baterie de 9Ah este marca Leoch, modelul cu specificatiile de aici http://www.leoch.com/pdf/reserve-pow...3.0-202101.pdf. Nu am scos bateria ca pareau niste sigilii pe suruburi.

O sa ii fac si un test de power outage, dar il las pana maine la incarcat.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	status.png
Views:	188
Size:	23.0 KB
ID:	73380   Click image for larger version

Name:	events.png
Views:	173
Size:	9.1 KB
ID:	73381   Click image for larger version

Name:	settings1.png
Views:	165
Size:	24.1 KB
ID:	73382   Click image for larger version

Name:	settings2.png
Views:	170
Size:	22.4 KB
ID:	73383   Click image for larger version

Name:	about.png
Views:	166
Size:	16.0 KB
ID:	73384   Click image for larger version

Name:	20210918_121343.jpg
Views:	146
Size:	425.0 KB
ID:	73388   Click image for larger version

Name:	20210918_121638.jpg
Views:	149
Size:	425.3 KB
ID:	73389   Click image for larger version

Name:	20210918_121723.jpg
Views:	157
Size:	382.8 KB
ID:	73390   Click image for larger version

Name:	20210918_122242.jpg
Views:	159
Size:	376.4 KB
ID:	73391   Click image for larger version

Name:	20210918_122300.jpg
Views:	159
Size:	462.0 KB
ID:	73392  

Click image for larger version

Name:	20210918_122340.jpg
Views:	155
Size:	484.4 KB
ID:	73393   Click image for larger version

Name:	20210918_122422.jpg
Views:	156
Size:	419.7 KB
ID:	73394   Click image for larger version

Name:	20210918_122519.jpg
Views:	155
Size:	342.4 KB
ID:	73395  

Last edited by dic1; 18-09-2021 at 19:53.
dic1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-09-2021, 21:12   #183
dic1
Senior Member
 
dic1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 643
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)

PC-ul meu

Default

Softul EATON cred ca arata consumul spre priza. APC, CyberPower, Delta aratau sistemul idle cu monitor pornit vreo 96Watt (retin la APC valoarea, la Delta am convertit procentele si pe acolo erau, la CyberPower aveam sub 100Watt).
La EATON am 150Watt, cred ca arata consumul spre priza, nu spre clienti. Bateria inca se incarca de la pranz, e la 96% (au trecut cam 8h de cand l-am pus in priza, bateria e de la 16% la 96%).
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	status1.png
Views:	171
Size:	22.4 KB
ID:	73401  

Last edited by dic1; 18-09-2021 at 21:17.
dic1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-09-2021, 21:25   #184
mbc
VIP
 
mbc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Cluj-Napoca
Posts: 28,790
Mentioned: 1489 Post(s)

PC-ul meu



Default

Zice output, nu input. E mai putin eficient probabil.
__________________
[PC-ul meu], Thinkpad T14
mbc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-09-2021, 03:55   #185
Boggy
Ancient friend
 
Boggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 15,259
Mentioned: 880 Post(s)

PC-ul meu

Default

Gizăs, dar cu 50% mai puțin eficient?

Ideal ar fi fost sa se masoare cu wattmetru in priza in care intra UPC-ul.

Oricum, la 50W disipati continuu de-a-mpulea ar trebui sa mearga un ventilator continuu in el.

Sent from my MI 8 using Tapatalk
__________________
Boggy doesn't have a computer.
Just a basement full of Asian kids that memorize numbers.
Boggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-09-2021, 11:11   #186
dic1
Senior Member
 
dic1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 643
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)

PC-ul meu

Default

Am gresit eu, atat imi consuma desktopul cu monitorul pornit.
Am gasit cauzele. La power options am un AMD Ryzen Power Plan care imi tinea procesorul intre 90% si 100%. L-am modificat la minim 5% si am mai castigat vreo 7Watt. Eram intrigat de ce sta la 3.8GHz procesorul in idle. Am pus o poza cu idle (ce imi raporteaza programele).
Am 4 module de 16GB, 2 la 2400MHz si 2 la 2666MHz. Sunt la 2666MHz si consuma o idee mai mult sistemul. Cred ca (nu am verificat) am pus un +0.10V la memorii din cauza asta.

Anyway, iata si testul:
10:31:30 - start test
10:41:30 - 48% incarcare baterie dupa 10 min
10:42:46 - stop test (11min15sec) la 40% baterie
Am oprit testul ca sa am ceva baterie si in caz de pana de curent.
Sunt multumit de UPS, isi face treaba.

UPS-ul este dead silent cand este alimentat, face un bazait infundat cand e lipsa tensiune, este mai silentios decat vechiul APC Back-UPS CS 650VA BK650EI; APC bazaia mai tare si cand era alimentat.
Softul de management nu consuma resurse. La Delta imi tinea un core la 80% si consuma curent.

Sistemul pe scurt: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 stock, RX570, 4x16GB RAM @2666MHz, 4 HDD-uri, 2 SSD, Seasonic Prime 650Watt Gold.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	test.png
Views:	153
Size:	59.4 KB
ID:	73414   Click image for larger version

Name:	consum_idle.png
Views:	165
Size:	196.9 KB
ID:	73415  

Last edited by dic1; 19-09-2021 at 11:18.
dic1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-09-2021, 23:37   #187
dic1
Senior Member
 
dic1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 643
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)

PC-ul meu

Default

UPS-ul este mai neeficient, chiar consuma cu vreo 50Watt in plus fata de restul.
Cand este alimentat raporteaza 150Watt in loc de 96Watt APC (sistem in idle).
Cand este power outage creste comsumul la 177Watt.
Am facut un burn-in test cu FurMark (GPU+CPU) si imi arata vreo 440Watt, APC nu a raportat consum mai mare de 390Watt in aceleasi conditii (iarasi din amintiri, dar sigur am vazut sub 400Watt la APC).

Vestea buna este ca, la pretul de 330lei, Eaton este compatibil cu un NAS QNAP TS-230. L-a recunoscut din prima.

LE: Imi trebuie o priza care imi arata consumul. Asa se poate vedea exact cat este inainte de UPS si dupa UPS. Poate ca raporteaza aiurea softul, Eaton este mai rece decat Delta. Aa, Delta Agilon VX 1000VA nu este recunoscut de QNAP TS-230.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	ups_eaton_reconnect.png
Views:	151
Size:	81.3 KB
ID:	73447  

Last edited by dic1; 23-09-2021 at 23:51.
dic1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2022, 23:24   #188
Boggy
Ancient friend
 
Boggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 15,259
Mentioned: 880 Post(s)

PC-ul meu

Default

Dupa ce mi-au murit acumulatorii de 40Ah vechi de fix 2 ani (FirstPower LFP1240, luati de pe Caranda.ro) am mers inainte de a-i inlocui cu UPS-ul la un tip care se pricepe la asa ceva. A reusit sa se lege prin serial la el si sa-i schimbe niste valori.

In special, voltajul de incarcare. L-am scazut de la 27.7v (adica 13.85v/acumulator) la 27.4v (13.7v). In mod real, una e la 13.6, alta e la 13.8, dar e absolut normala diferenta de voltaj in float pentru ca sunt in serie.
In sarcina sunt insa +- 50mv intre ele, deci stau foarte bine. Abia la ~10.1v incep sa se distanteze, cand deja sunt aproape goale.

Am facut calibrare manuala cu proiectorul halogen de 500W si a rezistat ~1h45min. Incarcarea de la 0>100% a durat apoi ~9-9.5hr.

Per total ma astept sa reziste mult mai bine in timp acum. Ori a fost o duda una din bateriile vechi, ori a omorat-o voltajul prea mare.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	APC.JPG
Views:	154
Size:	49.3 KB
ID:	74358  
__________________
Boggy doesn't have a computer.
Just a basement full of Asian kids that memorize numbers.
Boggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2022, 19:00   #189
mbc
VIP
 
mbc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Cluj-Napoca
Posts: 28,790
Mentioned: 1489 Post(s)

PC-ul meu



Default

Conteaza mai repede calitatea acumulatorilor decat o diferenta de 0.3v la incarcare.
__________________
[PC-ul meu], Thinkpad T14
mbc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-04-2022, 08:20   #190
Pirat
Ancient friend
 
Pirat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Brasov
Posts: 2,748
Mentioned: 65 Post(s)

PC-ul meu



Default

A venit timpul sa schimb acumulatorii la APC SmartUPS 1500 (SUA1500I) varianta tower, nu rack. Din specificatii trebuie RBC7.

Load constant e 20%(router, switch, server, nas, wifi ap)
@mbc, ce recomanzi? Daca trebuie sa dau 15 bete, dau 15 bete. E mai ieftin decat sa risc echipamentul din rack.
__________________
NAS: Core i3-9300T, RAM 32GB ECC, Asus P11C-M/4L, RAID-Z2 4x4TB, Truenas
VMHost1: Ryzen 5 3600, RAM 64GB ECC, Asrock AB350M PRO4, 2TB NVME, 1TB RAID1 SSD, Intel 10Gb, Proxmox
VMHost2: Ryzen 7 5700x, RAM 128GB, Asrock B450M Steel Legend, 2x 2TB NVME, Intel 10Gb, Proxmox
Pirat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-04-2022, 09:39   #191
mbc
VIP
 
mbc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Cluj-Napoca
Posts: 28,790
Mentioned: 1489 Post(s)

PC-ul meu



Default

BB sau CSB. Cam astea vin si cu bateriile originale.
__________________
[PC-ul meu], Thinkpad T14
mbc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-04-2022, 10:30   #192
Pirat
Ancient friend
 
Pirat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Brasov
Posts: 2,748
Mentioned: 65 Post(s)

PC-ul meu



Default

ms, voi scoate azi bateriile existente sa vad ce specificatii au. In functie de asta, iau CSB sau la nevoie OEM.
__________________
NAS: Core i3-9300T, RAM 32GB ECC, Asus P11C-M/4L, RAID-Z2 4x4TB, Truenas
VMHost1: Ryzen 5 3600, RAM 64GB ECC, Asrock AB350M PRO4, 2TB NVME, 1TB RAID1 SSD, Intel 10Gb, Proxmox
VMHost2: Ryzen 7 5700x, RAM 128GB, Asrock B450M Steel Legend, 2x 2TB NVME, Intel 10Gb, Proxmox
Pirat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-04-2022, 17:11   #193
mbc
VIP
 
mbc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Cluj-Napoca
Posts: 28,790
Mentioned: 1489 Post(s)

PC-ul meu



Default

SUA 1500 are 2 baterii de 17 sau 18 ah.
Acesta e modelul.
https://baterie-ups.ro/en/home/35-ac...-12v-17ah.html
__________________
[PC-ul meu], Thinkpad T14
mbc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-04-2022, 17:30   #194
Pirat
Ancient friend
 
Pirat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Brasov
Posts: 2,748
Mentioned: 65 Post(s)

PC-ul meu



Default

Are 2x BB 12V 17Ah. Ms de link, pus comanda la 2x GP12170.
__________________
NAS: Core i3-9300T, RAM 32GB ECC, Asus P11C-M/4L, RAID-Z2 4x4TB, Truenas
VMHost1: Ryzen 5 3600, RAM 64GB ECC, Asrock AB350M PRO4, 2TB NVME, 1TB RAID1 SSD, Intel 10Gb, Proxmox
VMHost2: Ryzen 7 5700x, RAM 128GB, Asrock B450M Steel Legend, 2x 2TB NVME, Intel 10Gb, Proxmox

Last edited by Pirat; 29-04-2022 at 17:41.
Pirat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-05-2022, 10:44   #195
Pirat
Ancient friend
 
Pirat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Brasov
Posts: 2,748
Mentioned: 65 Post(s)

PC-ul meu



Default

update, au revenit in stoc. trebuie sa ajunga saptamana asta GP12170 12V 17Ah Battery
__________________
NAS: Core i3-9300T, RAM 32GB ECC, Asus P11C-M/4L, RAID-Z2 4x4TB, Truenas
VMHost1: Ryzen 5 3600, RAM 64GB ECC, Asrock AB350M PRO4, 2TB NVME, 1TB RAID1 SSD, Intel 10Gb, Proxmox
VMHost2: Ryzen 7 5700x, RAM 128GB, Asrock B450M Steel Legend, 2x 2TB NVME, Intel 10Gb, Proxmox
Pirat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2022, 20:45   #196
Pirat
Ancient friend
 
Pirat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Brasov
Posts: 2,748
Mentioned: 65 Post(s)

PC-ul meu



Default

Schimbat bateriile, totul bine.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	apcups.PNG
Views:	91
Size:	22.0 KB
ID:	75047  
__________________
NAS: Core i3-9300T, RAM 32GB ECC, Asus P11C-M/4L, RAID-Z2 4x4TB, Truenas
VMHost1: Ryzen 5 3600, RAM 64GB ECC, Asrock AB350M PRO4, 2TB NVME, 1TB RAID1 SSD, Intel 10Gb, Proxmox
VMHost2: Ryzen 7 5700x, RAM 128GB, Asrock B450M Steel Legend, 2x 2TB NVME, Intel 10Gb, Proxmox
Pirat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2022, 21:18   #197
Boggy
Ancient friend
 
Boggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 15,259
Mentioned: 880 Post(s)

PC-ul meu

Default

De curiozitate, la ce voltaj iti tine bateriile? I-ai facut runtime calibration dupa?
__________________
Boggy doesn't have a computer.
Just a basement full of Asian kids that memorize numbers.
Boggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2022, 08:06   #198
Pirat
Ancient friend
 
Pirat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Brasov
Posts: 2,748
Mentioned: 65 Post(s)

PC-ul meu



Default

Rezultatul e dupa runtime calibration si lasat sa reincarce 100%.
Battery Voltage 27.3VDC

Masurat bateriile inainte sa le montez si aveau 12.92V / baterie.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	runtimecalibrationlogs.PNG
Views:	71
Size:	59.5 KB
ID:	75048  
__________________
NAS: Core i3-9300T, RAM 32GB ECC, Asus P11C-M/4L, RAID-Z2 4x4TB, Truenas
VMHost1: Ryzen 5 3600, RAM 64GB ECC, Asrock AB350M PRO4, 2TB NVME, 1TB RAID1 SSD, Intel 10Gb, Proxmox
VMHost2: Ryzen 7 5700x, RAM 128GB, Asrock B450M Steel Legend, 2x 2TB NVME, Intel 10Gb, Proxmox

Last edited by Pirat; 01-06-2022 at 08:19.
Pirat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2022, 14:25   #199
Boggy
Ancient friend
 
Boggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 15,259
Mentioned: 880 Post(s)

PC-ul meu

Default

E super 27.3v in float, o sa aiba viata lunga.
__________________
Boggy doesn't have a computer.
Just a basement full of Asian kids that memorize numbers.
Boggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-06-2022, 08:48   #200
mbc
VIP
 
mbc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Cluj-Napoca
Posts: 28,790
Mentioned: 1489 Post(s)

PC-ul meu



Default

Aseara ma jucam linistit COD: Modern Warfare Remastered pentru prima data si observ pe telefon ca este conectat la LTE in loc de wifi. OK, no biggie, s-o fi saturat de wifi Verific rapid pe computer, lipsa legatura la net. Aveam link, dar nu aveam router, ap, nimic. Ma duc rapid sa verific rack-ul cu routerul si luminite palpaitoare peste tot iar UPS-ul cu becul de "running on batteries" aprins dar nimic nu mergea corect. Nu stiu daca UPS-ul a stricat bateria sau daca bateria a stricat UPS-ul. Era prezent un miros electric specific, "magic smoke".

Rezultat:
-un alimentator POE stricat
-un UPS indoit (poze)
-un acumulator umflat (poze).

Mentiuni:
-Acumulatorul a fost cumparat in Februarie 2017, dupa specificatii trebuia schimbat maxim in Februarie 2022, este acumulator de pana la 5 ani.
-A fost foarte dificil de scos acumulatorul defect din UPS.
-UPS-ul nu a dat nici o eroare de "replace battery - bec rosu" inainte de eveniment.
-Inca nu am incercat sa ii pun alt acumulator si sa vad ce se intampla, UPS-ul e afara si astept sa se duca mirosul de magic smoke. Dupa aceea il voi deschide si verific cum arata in interior.
-Am comandat 3 acumulatori noi pentru a avea la UPS-urile care se ocupa de retelistica si serverul de fisiere, toti acumulatorii fiind din 2017. Mai am de inlocuit si altii, dar acestia sunt cei mai importanti.
-Link acumulatori: https://smdshop.ro/produse/ups-uri-a...h-bb-4399.html
-Am cumparat 2 alimentatoare Mikrotik, unul ca sa il inlocuiesc pe cel defect si unul de backup.
-Link alimentatoare Mikrotik:
1. 24v 0.8A, pentru WAP AC (compatibil si cu CAP AC, daca nu faci PoE Passthrough): https://www.wifistore.ro/cumpara/sur...ik-18pow-74742
2. 24v 1.2A, pentru CAP AC, compatibil si cu WAP AC: https://www.wifistore.ro/cumpara/sur...1200gr2a-74748





__________________
[PC-ul meu], Thinkpad T14
mbc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

 
Forum Stats
Members: 9,570
Threads: 27,841
Posts: 781,911
Total Online: 2756

Newest Member: Constantin

Latest Threads
- by kvarq
- by matose
- by LAB501

Advertisement

Partner Links



All times are GMT +3. The time now is 11:28.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.