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Old 09-12-2018, 01:01   #4881
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ce da ?
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Old 09-12-2018, 04:25   #4882
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Pai alt raspuns mai bun la intrebarea cam stupida pe care ai adresat-o, nu cred ca exista.
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Old 09-12-2018, 09:35   #4883
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Ce e stupid in a intreba cand apare urmatoarea generatie Intel „Cannon Lake” pe 10 nm?
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Old 09-12-2018, 10:18   #4884
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ce da ?
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Old 09-12-2018, 10:57   #4885
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Care ar fi urmatoarea generatie dupa 9700/9900k si cand ar trebuie sa apara ?
Teoretic, in a doua jumatate a lui 2019 ar trebui sa apara ceva concret pe 10nm, dar ei promit 10nm din 2016, asa ca... Si mai promit si 7nm prin 2020-2021.
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Teoretic, in a doua jumatate a lui 2019 ar trebui sa apara ceva concret pe 10nm, dar ei promit 10nm din 2016, asa ca... Si mai promit si 7nm prin 2020-2021.
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Old 09-12-2018, 11:26   #4887
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Old 09-12-2018, 13:42   #4888
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Teoretic, in a doua jumatate a lui 2019 ar trebui sa apara ceva concret pe 10nm, dar ei promit 10nm din 2016, asa ca... Si mai promit si 7nm prin 2020-2021.
S-ar putea sa sara peste 10nm si sa scoata direct pe 7 la sfantul asteapta.
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Old 09-12-2018, 19:34   #4889
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Ideea e simpla, pana cand ASML nu termina jucaria noua NXE:3400B productia in masa a cipurilor de 10nm si sub nu o sa inceapa. Au probleme mari cu niste detalii, am un prieten care a lucrat cativa ani la ei pe partea de soft la scula asta, sunt din cate stiu cei mai mari si printre singurii care lucreaza la cercetare si solutii EUV asa ca toata lumea arunca in ei cu bani de sponsorizari sa-i ajute cu productia jucariilor.
Dupa cum se vede mai jos, baietii sunt putin in urma, problema cea mai mare fiind faptul ca nu au gasit o solutie viabila sa protejeze waferele de impuritati in timpul expunerii, cam asta ar fi cel mai mare impediment. Si evident sa creasca viteza de fabricatie (aprox 125unitati pe ora, care e inca sub limita putin (sau ma rog, la inceputul anului era cam 110, cand am primit ultimele info)



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Jucaria noua NXE:3400B nu trebuia să vină în 2017?

Acum intrăm în 2019 imediat.

Din câte văd eu problema nu e la proiectanții de cipuri și nici la producători, ci la cei ce furnizează mașinile de fotolitografiat.
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Old 12-12-2018, 18:30   #4891
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Old 12-12-2018, 21:40   #4892
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Intel's Architecture Day 2018: The Future of Core, Intel GPUs, 10nm, and Hybrid x86
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We were told that this configuration is the GT2 config, which will have 64 execution units, up from 24 in Gen9.5.
So we are basically back to Broadwell. Mai sa fie cum merge competitia asta. Au limitat la 24 EU orice iGPU pentru procesoarele vandute catre muritorii de rand, mai putin variantele super scumpe pe care le-au bagat in Skull Canyon si alte laptopuri cu 48/72 EU. Acum ca AMD a intrat bine cu 2200G si 2400G hopa, s-au trezit sa ne dea din nou evolutia "normala" pentru iGPU
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So we are basically back to Broadwell. Mai sa fie cum merge competitia asta. Au limitat la 24 EU orice iGPU pentru procesoarele vandute catre muritorii de rand, mai putin variantele super scumpe pe care le-au bagat in Skull Canyon si alte laptopuri cu 48/72 EU. Acum ca AMD a intrat bine cu 2200G si 2400G hopa, s-au trezit sa ne dea din nou evolutia "normala" pentru iGPU

Fara competitie reala nimic bun nu se intampla, indiferent de numele companiilor implicate. Si, daca facem un pas in spate si privim peisajul dintr-o perspectiva ceva mai larga, lucrurile nu arata prea imbucurator. Dinamica societatii globalizate face ca in cateva decenii lucrurile sa fie transate: ramane un "tatuc" si un sparring partner, ca sa nu poti sa zici ca e monopol. Insa competitia reala a fost de fapt demult anulata. Cand ai doar doua companii in intreaga lume care produc cartofi, nu te poti astepta sa mananci piure ieftin si bun.
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@gavagai unul dintre putinele comentarii bune!
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A zis despre piure... nasol, îmi era cam foame.


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Old 14-12-2018, 14:10   #4896
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A zis frumos, cred că era bun la română. Eu aș fi făcut analogie cu fizica sau matematica.
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Intel Xeon W-3175X: Overclockable 28-Core CPU Listed at Stores

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Yupp, se lanseaza in ianuarie. La prima strigare pe apa 4600 e cam limita, pregatiti 2 surse de 1000w si un waterloop zdravan. Partea funny este ca nu e soldered ))

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Yupp, se lanseaza in ianuarie. La prima strigare pe apa 4600 e cam limita, pregatiti 2 surse de 1000w si un waterloop zdravan. Partea funny este ca nu e soldered ))
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