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Old 28-06-2019, 12:37   #321
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Facem pariu pe 2 beri bune in centrul vechi, ca gaseste in pampalau sa i-l ia? Mai scade 1- 200 lei si-l da ca "pretestat"!
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Old 28-06-2019, 12:38   #322
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Nu neg asta, nu ma mai mira nimic de la o vreme
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Old 28-06-2019, 13:53   #323
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Si eu ma gandeam sa cer 2500 lei pe al meu... cb15 5300 1.29v....
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Old 28-06-2019, 23:07   #324
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Pai nu mai bine ceri 3500? Poate-poate
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Old 28-06-2019, 23:29   #325
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Facem pariu pe 2 beri bune in centrul vechi, ca gaseste in pampalau sa i-l ia? Mai scade 1- 200 lei si-l da ca "pretestat"!
Ca e "Intel" face cel putin 1000Ron din pret. )

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Old 29-06-2019, 00:26   #326
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În schimb, când e vb de 500 $ pt un 6850k ținut cu voltaj la max pe apa, e ok.
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9900k pentru testat stabilitatea ce se mai foloseste?
prime no AVX, IBT, Realbench/aida64?
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Old 01-07-2019, 14:06   #328
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Eu folosesc aplicatii. Mi s-a intamplat sa am overclock "stabil" in ROG Benchmark sau IBT si sa pice in jocuri precum The Division 2, am mai pus 0.01V si e stabil.
Plus de asta, daca as face bani cu PCul nu as overclocka nimic, oricat de stabil pare a fi, chiar si dupa 24 ore de Prime95, nu as risca o randare la client ca sa castig 10-15% timp.
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Old 01-07-2019, 14:49   #329
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Eu folosesc aplicatii. Mi s-a intamplat sa am overclock "stabil" in ROG Benchmark sau IBT si sa pice in jocuri precum The Division 2, am mai pus 0.01V si e stabil.
Plus de asta, daca as face bani cu PCul nu as overclocka nimic, oricat de stabil pare a fi, chiar si dupa 24 ore de Prime95, nu as risca o randare la client ca sa castig 10-15% timp.
de muncit muncest in 99% din timp de pe laptop, PC-ul a ajuns strict daca mai fac eu ceva personal si sa ma job/browsing and crap.

Eu de obicei fac ce faci tu, insa preventiv. Caut voltajul minim pentru ce viteza vreau, testez stabilitatea, si dupa cresc cu 0.01V ca sa nu ma trezesc cu un crash intr-un joc sau ceva .

Am intrebat pentru ca prime cu AVX a devenit un mare NONO de vreo generatie doua.
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Old 01-07-2019, 15:03   #330
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Cu AVX, poti sa faci altceva, folosesti AVX offset din BIOS, eu nu il folosesc dar un 2-3 offset de la 5Ghz ar trebui sa fie ok.
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ehm daaaa, as putea sa fac asta, pb e ca daca folosesc offset trebuie sa bag MULT mai mult vCore ca sa fie stabil.
citisi pe undeva ca in momentul in care setezi un AVX offset, si procesorul primeste instructiuni AVX, pb trebuie sa schimbe ratio-ul, si scade voltajul atunci (poate o fi doar la ASUS, nu stiu), preemptively trebuie sa dai MULT mai mult voltaj ca sa fie stabil.
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Eu stiam doar de multiplicator, ca in loc de 50x il pune pe 47x, de exemplu, nu stiu daca se atinge si de voltaj/LLC.
Cand am putin timp liber, o sa ma joc si eu cu setarea asta sa vad cum se comporta, am o Gigabyte.
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Umbla doar la multi (il scade), voltaj/LLC ramin la fel.
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revin cu explicatia pe care am inteles-o eu.
Pentru un cpu care are cpu ratio 50x, si se seteaza AVX offset -2, deci ratio devine 48x in momentul unui load AVX.
In momentul in care procesorul primeste intructiuni AVX, si pb schimba acel ratio de la 50x la 48x, vcore-ul scade, nu il prinde nici un tool pentru ca e f rapida treaba, insa din aceasta cauza totul devine instabil.
nu stiu daca e doar la asus treaba asta, sau toti au aceeasi problema.
ca sa fie si mai clar,
eu cu ratio 52x, avx offset 0, rulez bine mersi cinebench r15/r20, cpu-z bench, aida cam 30 minute.
cu ratio 52x, avx offset 3/4 iau bsod instant in r15/r20.
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Si la mine daca umblu la AVX offset, ca scad 1 sau 2 sau 3 sau mai mult, crapa instant in cinebench, desi cu multi 51 (asa tin CPU), fara sa umblu la AVX (AUTO), e ok...
Prime cu AVX crapa la multi 51, daca pun AVX 2, e stabil.
Tinind cont ca in gaming si alte aplicatii, (24/7 use), CPU lasat cu multi 51 fara sa umblu la AVX, ruleaza perfect si nu am luat niciun BSOD pina acum, am spus fuck teste si vad de treaba mea.
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e ok, in HWinfo64, poti sa vezi WHEA(Windows Hardware Error Architecture) errors.
ruleaza ceva gen Realbench pentru cateva ore si cateva runde de cinebench, daca nu apare nimic cel mai probabil esti ok.
[email protected] 1.26V in bios, in load undeva la 1.225. stabil 8 ore realbench si 1 prime non-avx.
ma beleste gandul sa incerc 5.2(1.29-1.31 cam vrea) sa-l bibilesc dar e cu pb de temperatura.
Nu era cineva care facuse delid? nvm, gasit pe @Gaminggrade

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Old 03-07-2019, 10:53   #337
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Daca la 5.1 nu ai probleme cu temepratura, pentru 100mhz nu m-as complica.
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Old 03-07-2019, 11:42   #338
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Si daca sint probleme cu temperatura ce?
Sa se arda!
Sa se invete minte sa foloseasca TIM sau solder calumea, nu margarina aia infecta sau solderul ala izolator termic...
De ce AMD lipeste procesoarele calumea?
De ce la ei se poate si la Intel nu?
Eu mi-am facut "datoria", Intel au primit din partea mea un procesor 9900K decedat.
Prea frigea rau si abia statea in 5GHz all cores cu 1,35Vcore.
Asta de acum e bun, 5100MHz cu 1,32Vcore si 7-8 grade mai putin fata de celalalt.
Sint curios de o comparatie 9900K vs 9900KF, daca KF e mai OC-abil si eventual mai rece; si asa nu folosesc video onboard...

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Old 03-07-2019, 13:08   #339
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Sint curios de o comparatie 9900K vs 9900KF, daca KF e mai OC-abil si eventual mai rece; si asa nu folosesc video onboard...
KF este un K la care nu a iesit igp.... daca dai disable in bios la igp o sa ai kf
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E dat disable.
Ms gindesc ca la KF, chipul din interior este fara video, ca lucratura, nu K-uri rebut cu partea video nefunctionala.
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