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Old 05-01-2023, 18:49   #1
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Default Ryzen 5 5600 + MSI B450M Gaming Plus - Nu pot intra in BIOS

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Dupa un upgrade de procesor de la Ryzen 5 2500X la 5600, se pare ca secventa de boot executata nu imi permite sa mai intru in BIOS ( nu se afiseaza nici un ecran initial al placii de baza, se intra direct in Win).

Procesor: Ryzen 5 5600
MB: MSI B450M Gaming Plus bios 7B87v1G support AGESA 1.2.0.7 (latest version)
Memorii: Patriot Viper RGB Black 16GB DDR4 3200MHz CL16
GPU: GeForce GTX 1050

Cu 2500x acelasi BIOS imi ofera o secventa de boot corecta, cu posibilitatea de a intra in BIOS.
BIOS-ul a fost updatat la ultima versiune, compatibila cu procesorul, inainte de montez 5600 (https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M...US/support#cpu).

Pe site la MSI scrie printre modificarile aduse de BIOS: - Change the default setting of Secure Boot.
Am incercat sa caut in BIOS ceva setari si am setari in BIOS de a boota UEFI sau Legacy+UEFI, si e selectat mod Legacy+UEFI.
Aparent 2500x booteaza Legacy, si 5600 in mod UEFI.

Am incercat sa accesez BIOS-ul restartand prin secventa: Settings --> Updates & Security --> Recovery ---> Advanced Startup -----> Restart ---> UEFI firmware settings, dar compul ramane suspendat si nu booteaza dupa restart in felul asta.

Aveti vreo idee cum as putea accesa BIOS-ul placii de baza?
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Old 05-01-2023, 19:50   #2
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Incearca sa schimbi ceva in configuratie (memoria in alt slot sau un singur modul), ca uneori apare config changed sau alt video, daca ai cumva la indemana.
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Nu am nimic la indemana, dar incerc sa fac si asta. Nu vad insa legatura intre schimbatul componentelor si secventa aceasta de boot Secure/Fast boot cum se numeste.
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Urmeaza procedura de Clear CMOS(power off, scos cablul din sursa, apasat buton de clear cmos sau facut scurt cu jumper-ul daca nu ai buton), iar la primul boot apasa pe DEL sa intri in BIOS. Apoi dezactiveaza fast boot / fast startup.

La fel si in windows, dezactiveaza fast startup.

https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1045548/
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Cu fosta gtx 1060 si monitor Huawei 34 inchi nu aveam semnal in bios prin cablu displayport, trebuia sa folosesc hdmi-hdmi si fara alt cablu uitat in placa video. Cu actuala rx 6750 merge si prin displayport. Cu un alt monitor(lenovo office, acelasi pc),nu aveam problema asta prin displayport.
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Tot spre placa video inclin si eu - poate e un pic cam veche
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Cu fosta gtx 1060 si monitor Huawei 34 inchi nu aveam semnal in bios prin cablu displayport, trebuia sa folosesc hdmi-hdmi si fara alt cablu uitat in placa video. Cu actuala rx 6750 merge si prin displayport. Cu un alt monitor(lenovo office, acelasi pc),nu aveam problema asta prin displayport.
Am incercat si pe HDMI, acelasi rezultat. Placa video e un GTX 1050, n-as zice ca e veche.
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Urmeaza procedura de Clear CMOS(power off, scos cablul din sursa, apasat buton de clear cmos sau facut scurt cu jumper-ul daca nu ai buton), iar la primul boot apasa pe DEL sa intri in BIOS. Apoi dezactiveaza fast boot / fast startup.

La fel si in windows, dezactiveaza fast startup.

https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1045548/
Am dezactivat Fast Startup in Windows. Am efectuat procedura de CLEAR CMOS, dar la boot nu am reusit sa vad nimic, am apasat DEL dupa ce s-a aprins NUMLOCK. Daca apas constant DEL de la pornire, nu booteaza.
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semnalul in monitor trece prin ceva kvm sau prin vreun device intermediar? Mie imi suna ca o chestie de genul rezolutie/refresh care nu este suportat de monitor pe secventa aia de bios. Si cred ca de-asta cand apesi tasta DEL ai impresia ca el nu booteaza, dar e posibil ca el de fapt sa fie in bios acolo, si de aia sa nu mai booteze.
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Am dezactivat Fast Startup in Windows. Am efectuat procedura de CLEAR CMOS, dar la boot nu am reusit sa vad nimic, am apasat DEL dupa ce s-a aprins NUMLOCK. Daca apas constant DEL de la pornire, nu booteaza.
nu booteaza ptr ca apasand Del intra in bios
e chestie de monitor - cablu- placa video
incearca alta placa/monitor/gpu si o sa vezi ca o sa mearga
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Sunt de aceeasi parere, placa video se initializeaza corect abia in windows. De intrat intra in bios, dar nu ai imagine pe monitor si asta iti da impresia ca ramane suspendat.Cel mai probabil problema nu se datoreaza procesorului nou ci update-ului de bios pe care l-ai facut ca sa suporte acel procesor. Versiunea actuala nu se mai intelege corect cu placa ta video.
Ai putea incerca si o sesizare la MSI support, poate fi ceva de care vor tine cont pentru urmatoarea versiune de bios.
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Cu fosta gtx 1060 si monitor Huawei 34 inchi nu aveam semnal in bios prin cablu displayport, trebuia sa folosesc hdmi-hdmi si fara alt cablu uitat in placa video. Cu actuala rx 6750 merge si prin displayport. Cu un alt monitor(lenovo office, acelasi pc),nu aveam problema asta prin displayport.
Am patit nenorocirea asta de curand, am bagat PC-ul la TV-ul parintilor, prin HDMI (eu pe monitor il tin cu DP) si nu mergea sa intru in bios de nicio culoare. Ba mai mult, daca nu era TV-ul stins nici macar Windows-ul nu-l boota, de m-a facut sa scot si sa bag toate componentele, sa cumpar alt cablu si sa cred ca i-am dat buleala prin portbagaj.

Revenind pe monitor, merge ca uns atat DP cat si HDMI cu tot cu intrat in BIOS!
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Cu 2500x vad perfect si intru in Bios , care e legatura intre ce face placa video pe 2500x si 5600?
Daca era de placa video+ BIOS, aveam acelasi comportamente cu ambele procesoare. Ceea ce am si avut cu Bios rev F(nu vedeam bios nici cu 2500+ ), insa cu bios G e comportamentul de mai sus.
E o combinatie de Mobo+proc+ bios issue, eu asa o vad.
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Nu trebuia sa il returnezi. E dif colosala intre 2500x si 5600, plecand de la consum, temperaturi, frecv de functionare samd. Puneai o alta placa video, faceai setarile care trebuie si aia e.
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Nu trebuia sa il returnezi. E dif colosala intre 2500x si 5600, plecand de la consum, temperaturi, frecv de functionare samd. Puneai o alta placa video, faceai setarile care trebuie si aia e.
Nu am alta placa video bro. Ce sa pun, una fara UEFI support?
Daca producatorul meu zice ca e compatibila, pun Biosul si nu merge, sa fie masa sanatoasa. Next time incerc cu B550 si gata.
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Ai cumva setup multi monitor conectat exclusiv pe DP?
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Setup multi monitor adica 2 monitoare conectate? Am pus doar HDMI fata DP si acelasi rezultat.
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